Like, I'm dead certain tons of people who smugly share lists like this on Banned Book Week WOULD "ban" books under certain circumstances, especially if we use the extended definition of "banned" to "restricted or challenged" (getting it off store shelves or school curricula)
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I mean how do you feel about Alan Moore's Lost Girls? That book got "challenged" a hell of a lot, yanked by a bunch of distributors, seized at the border by customs officials, etc. ...Because it contains graphic drawn depictions of underage sex
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So are you cool with that? *Would* you be okay with the book being stocked on bookstore shelves or assigned reading in high school classrooms? I don't actually know the answer to that question for myself, but I'm asking How do these people feel about Cuties being on Netflix
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Again, I'm agnostic on the question of whether Cuties should've been made, as I generally am with movies like Kids (1995) that were challenged for similar reasons I'm pretty comfortable with saying Pretty Baby (1978), which features actual underage nudity, doesn't need to exist
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But that's why I'm pretty open these days about thinking that "freedom of expression" isn't an absolute and that can be abrogated by other concerns Do these people feel the same way? They sound all absolutist about free speech in the abstract but their examples are all so tame
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Like, I also don't think all copies of The Turner Diaries or The Protocols of the Elders of Zion should be destroyed but I don't want them publicly sold like they're just normal books I'd be pissed if I heard some teacher was using them as sources uncritically
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By their definition that means I'm someone who wants to "restrict or challenge" books Well yeah I plead guilty to that, and I think if you oppose me on that you should have the courage to do so openly, with the worst examples, and not the ones you know make you look good
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Like I legitimately actually want Lost Girls, which was a high-profile example from a famous creator that people really did fight bitterly over in the comics world, to be centered in discussions like this Let's go ahead and hash it out instead of dancing around it
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GRRM, Stephen King, Philip Pullman also all wrote about underage sex in a way that was generally more prurient than expository. I pick those examples because no one struggles to get their books, so maybe the bottom line is we’re just societally ok with underage sex in general.
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This is a general conversation I don't think we're capable of having or really want to have -- hell, dropping the cowardly "we" here, *I* don't want to have it, I'm much more comfortable ignoring it
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So I think it's just going to continue to be this unpredictable third rail, like ten or fifteen years from now we're going to have another Cuties phenomenon because we can't agree on what the rules actually are or who gets the benefit of the doubt
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It’s possible that outside of a small group of weirdos, almost no one really wants to ban much popular work — access and controversy are good for political posturing, recruiting, and fundraising based on feigned outrage. Though I think I agree w you re deplatforming some stuff.
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