So are you cool with that? *Would* you be okay with the book being stocked on bookstore shelves or assigned reading in high school classrooms? I don't actually know the answer to that question for myself, but I'm asking How do these people feel about Cuties being on Netflix
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Again, I'm agnostic on the question of whether Cuties should've been made, as I generally am with movies like Kids (1995) that were challenged for similar reasons I'm pretty comfortable with saying Pretty Baby (1978), which features actual underage nudity, doesn't need to exist
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But that's why I'm pretty open these days about thinking that "freedom of expression" isn't an absolute and that can be abrogated by other concerns Do these people feel the same way? They sound all absolutist about free speech in the abstract but their examples are all so tame
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Like, I also don't think all copies of The Turner Diaries or The Protocols of the Elders of Zion should be destroyed but I don't want them publicly sold like they're just normal books I'd be pissed if I heard some teacher was using them as sources uncritically
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By their definition that means I'm someone who wants to "restrict or challenge" books Well yeah I plead guilty to that, and I think if you oppose me on that you should have the courage to do so openly, with the worst examples, and not the ones you know make you look good
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Like I legitimately actually want Lost Girls, which was a high-profile example from a famous creator that people really did fight bitterly over in the comics world, to be centered in discussions like this Let's go ahead and hash it out instead of dancing around it
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Alan Moore threw down this gauntlet about "free speech" -- "I'm a grown man who fantasizes about 14-year-old boys and girls fucking and I don't care who knows it and I'm rich and famous enough to sell a book about it" And the world at large just... kind of tiptoed past it
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Like we all just kind of pretend it didn't happen when discussing "Alan Moore, creator of Watchmen" and let it continue to be a "comics nerd" thing because the legal and moral issues involved legitimately will blow up many communities who all thought they had the same politics
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From Hell is my favorite comic and Alan Moore my favorite living writer and I have no idea what to even think or where to begin on Lost Girls.
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Short of... welp I hate this.
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It doesn't help obviously that the people who have the strongest objections to the content, for obvious reasons, haven't actually purchased or read it (myself included) and don't know what it contains in detail
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1
I have a copy. I saw it for sale at a bookshop (shrink wrapped, of course). I'd heard of its reputation, what it was about and, well... You know that bit from Arrested Development. "I don't know what I expected".
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Like a lot of his work, there's a lot of detail to the characters that makes it psychologically fascinating. That is if you can get past the graphic sexual content. And I do mean graphic. After the first third, when the Lost Girls get together, basically every page is a sex scene
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