whenever I read Troy Baker’s takes on Joel I wonder how often this sort of thing happens where an actor portrays a character really well, genuinely likes and is proud of the role (not just phoning it in and being really good at acting by default), but just doesn’t get them
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Replying to @arthur_affect
It's a few things. The thing where he said that Joel admitting to having been on both sides of an ambush was the big insight that Joel was kind of a bastard was a big one
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect
The part where he didn't disagree with Nolan North on "David and Joel are two sides of the same coin" is another BIG one
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He phrased it REALLY badly, but I think what he might have been trying to get across is that David and his group of cannibals is kind of the ultimate result of Joel’s “survive by any means necessary” ideology. Idk though. He might have meant something else.
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And he's not wrong... but he tries to be too clever about it. Like he's said (to paraphrase) "David isn't evil, he's just doing what he feels he needs to do to survive." No Troy, David is a paedophile rapist as well as a murderer cannibal, I think we can safely say he is evil.
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Yeah, I was very thrown off when he said David isn’t evil. Idk if he forgot about the pedophile rapist thing, but that definitely makes David definitively evil. I can see a parallel with Joel up to that point, but that aspect takes David a big step further in badness.
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Whether he's actually a rapist remains ambiguous in the game up to the point where he dies, to be fair And regardless his obsession with Ellie IS a dark mirror of Joel, that's kind of the point, when he's initially presented as a possible good guy that's the parallel
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Joel and David both feel like they can't survive if they're completely on their own and they need to "find a reason to keep going" involving a relationship with this surrogate daughter figure, someone who makes him feel needed and valuable
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With Joel, it's something that at this point he's still conflicted about and feeling his way through, trying to separate his selfish desires with what's genuinely best for Ellie With David, he's fully accepted this is a roleplaying fetish for him and an addiction like a drug
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