whenever I read Troy Baker’s takes on Joel I wonder how often this sort of thing happens where an actor portrays a character really well, genuinely likes and is proud of the role (not just phoning it in and being really good at acting by default), but just doesn’t get them
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
I think it is pretty common. Real easy to end up there is you are coming from a method type acting direction where you want the emotional beats of a character to feel relatable to you as a person.
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Replying to @scarygirlone @BootlegGirl
But the character is kind of a piece of shit, whereas you (the actor) are not.
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Replying to @scarygirlone @BootlegGirl
There's also the difference between getting in the mindset of a character and understanding the *actual* reasons for a character's behavior, since a lot of us also lack that self-awareness.
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Like I have seen a *ton* of actors who play villains who end up arguing their characters aren't evil just misunderstood when they're clearly pretty bad people.
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Replying to @nivenus @scarygirlone
Weirdly if anything I feel like Baker is the opposite direction. Like I think he was Team Abby Hole in One All the Way tbh
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Maybe he’s of the opinion that Joel crosses the moral line by his decision at the end of the first game.
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Quite possibly. Like I said my view that he doesn't quite get the character has more to do with stuff before that, in the first game
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Maybe he just has a very dark interpretation of what Joel’s offscreen past means for the character. His performance did portray Joel as being incredibly world weary at the beginning of the first game.
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Yeah I hear that's how he got the role - most other auditioners didn't get that Joel was just done at the start
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It was a thing about how dudes who want to play video game heroes tend to all try to macho it up as much as possible and the way to stand out is to do something different from that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
Like, obviously Joel is an angry guy who kills people, but if that's all he is that's not interesting Honestly Joel may have been the beginning of "sad dad" becoming the new stereotype of video game protagonists
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Wasn't that Watch Dogs and Heavy Rain?
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