I feel like there's room in pop culture for both gross ancient Strain style vampires and pretty sexy gay vampires and I've lost patience with anyone who holds one up as "better" or more "real" than the other
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Replying to @autogynamelia @dreamingnoctis and
That's why Vampire the Masquerade has multiple vampire clans and has the whole ongoing Nosferatu/Toreador feud
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Replying to @arthur_affect @autogynamelia and
Occasionally they forget that the shtick is basically "each clan is one particular set of Vampire tropes", but the game is best when it's fully aware of it.
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Replying to @social_scifi @autogynamelia and
Yeah the whole idea is there's such a dizzying array of vampire powers and weaknesses it would be almost impossible to play a single character who embodied all of them so they spread them out
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
IIRC there's even a thing where they typically used "repelled by garlic" as an example of the ridiculous things humans believe about vampires but then there's actually a family of revenats (hereditary ghouls, i.e. shitty half-vampires) who really are horribly poisoned by garlic
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
You can even pinpoint specific movies or books that inspired each Clan, like Brujah was invented to play the "teenage street punk" vampires from The Lost Boys, Toreador was the Byronic artiste vampires like Lestat from Anne Rice, etc etc
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
Well, now I'm hung up on what the Assamites are inspired by
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect and
Directly mapping vampire clans to vampire tropes only really applies to the Camarilla clans (ironically the guys with the Masquerade are the most likely to be clocked as Vampires by mortals).
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Replying to @MichaelOfHealy @Nymphomachy and
The Sabbat clans stretch things a bit but their weaknesses at least as classic vampire gimmicks. The independent clans and bloodlines are all over the place.
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Replying to @MichaelOfHealy @Nymphomachy and
The Setites are based on Conan villains with a little bit of David Icke lizard people as things went on. How they decided that should be a vampire clan will always puzzle me.
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The Independent Clans are just making other things into vampires Setites are mummy-vampires, Assamites are tropey Muslim hashishin as vampires, Giovanni are the Mafia as vampires
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MichaelHealy18 and
The weird ways they deviate from the simple version of these archetypes is part of the creativity here Like the reason Giovanni are necromancers is them thinking "What would *vampires* find illicit yet appealing, that they'd have to make a black market for it and become a Mafia"
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