IIRC there's even a thing where they typically used "repelled by garlic" as an example of the ridiculous things humans believe about vampires but then there's actually a family of revenats (hereditary ghouls, i.e. shitty half-vampires) who really are horribly poisoned by garlic
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
You can even pinpoint specific movies or books that inspired each Clan, like Brujah was invented to play the "teenage street punk" vampires from The Lost Boys, Toreador was the Byronic artiste vampires like Lestat from Anne Rice, etc etc
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
Well, now I'm hung up on what the Assamites are inspired by
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @social_scifi and
I think they're less a vampire trope and more that the White Wolf guys were really into Orientalist shit about the Assassins and wanted to make that literal for the sake of having a clan that was just vampire assassins you could hire to kill other vampires
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
You gotta keep in mind at first they only planned to do one game so their original idea required doing other monsters in vampire form if they wanted to include them at all Gangrel are werewolf vampires, Setites are mummy vampires
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Yeah despite my love for the Gangrel they became an anachronism the second Werewolf came out and I don't feel like they ever really found a place for them after that
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Replying to @autogynamelia @arthur_affect and
The only one I can't square are Malkavians. I can't figure out what archetype from prior vampire fiction they're supposed to be.
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Replying to @nivenus @autogynamelia and
Drusilla from BtVS (No, it's probably the other way around if anything, but still)
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @nivenus and
Buffy the TV series started in 1997 and greatly postdates Vampire: the Masquerade, which first came out in 1991
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
That said, the original Malkavians in VtM 1st edition were only pretending to be crazy -- the book outright tells you that it's the whole "method to their madness" thing, their seemingly meaningless babbling and scribbling is actually a language only other Malkavians know, etc
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The whole decision to make Vampire darker and grittier and more authentically goffic hit Malkavians pretty hard, they went from goofy pranksters to actually distressingly mentally ill
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
This was a thing in-universe, with Camarilla Malkavians losing the Dominate Discipline and going back to Dementation, when in 1st Edition Dementation was specifically the mark of a Malkavian antitribu (back when Camarilla were straight up good guys and Sabbat were bad guys)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Anyway the Malkavians are just another spinoff of stuff like The Lost Boys, I'd argue -- like Dementation is clearly inspired by the infamous "turning the spaghetti into worms" scene in The Lost Boys
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