Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, a LOT of it dates back, not even just to Bram Stoker, but to Bela Lugosi specifically.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @social_scifi and
To a degree, yeah. And the folklore is interesting, but here's a new blazing cursed sun hot take from me; The "ackshually historical folklore vampires were like X" has become the vampire equivalent to "Frankenstein is the name of the doctor!"
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Replying to @dreamingnoctis @mssilverstein and
Yeah I hate that I've ever been in a position to argue in favor of anything Stephanie Meyer ever did but Her reimagining of vampires isn't even as extreme as what LeFanu, Polidori, and Stoker did with the existing vampire myths a century and a half earlier
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Replying to @autogynamelia @dreamingnoctis and
I feel like there's room in pop culture for both gross ancient Strain style vampires and pretty sexy gay vampires and I've lost patience with anyone who holds one up as "better" or more "real" than the other
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Replying to @autogynamelia @dreamingnoctis and
That's why Vampire the Masquerade has multiple vampire clans and has the whole ongoing Nosferatu/Toreador feud
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Replying to @arthur_affect @autogynamelia and
Occasionally they forget that the shtick is basically "each clan is one particular set of Vampire tropes", but the game is best when it's fully aware of it.
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Replying to @social_scifi @autogynamelia and
Yeah the whole idea is there's such a dizzying array of vampire powers and weaknesses it would be almost impossible to play a single character who embodied all of them so they spread them out
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
IIRC there's even a thing where they typically used "repelled by garlic" as an example of the ridiculous things humans believe about vampires but then there's actually a family of revenats (hereditary ghouls, i.e. shitty half-vampires) who really are horribly poisoned by garlic
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
You can even pinpoint specific movies or books that inspired each Clan, like Brujah was invented to play the "teenage street punk" vampires from The Lost Boys, Toreador was the Byronic artiste vampires like Lestat from Anne Rice, etc etc
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
Well, now I'm hung up on what the Assamites are inspired by
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I think they're less a vampire trope and more that the White Wolf guys were really into Orientalist shit about the Assassins and wanted to make that literal for the sake of having a clan that was just vampire assassins you could hire to kill other vampires
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
You gotta keep in mind at first they only planned to do one game so their original idea required doing other monsters in vampire form if they wanted to include them at all Gangrel are werewolf vampires, Setites are mummy vampires
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Yeah despite my love for the Gangrel they became an anachronism the second Werewolf came out and I don't feel like they ever really found a place for them after that
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