There's an argument that the flukeworm monster in the famous early X Files episode has more in common with at least a certain historical depiction of vampires than a lot of post-Victorian, post-Gothic vampire fiction.
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Replying to @dreamingnoctis @social_scifi and
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, a LOT of it dates back, not even just to Bram Stoker, but to Bela Lugosi specifically.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @social_scifi and
To a degree, yeah. And the folklore is interesting, but here's a new blazing cursed sun hot take from me; The "ackshually historical folklore vampires were like X" has become the vampire equivalent to "Frankenstein is the name of the doctor!"
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Replying to @dreamingnoctis @mssilverstein and
Yeah I hate that I've ever been in a position to argue in favor of anything Stephanie Meyer ever did but Her reimagining of vampires isn't even as extreme as what LeFanu, Polidori, and Stoker did with the existing vampire myths a century and a half earlier
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Replying to @autogynamelia @dreamingnoctis and
I feel like there's room in pop culture for both gross ancient Strain style vampires and pretty sexy gay vampires and I've lost patience with anyone who holds one up as "better" or more "real" than the other
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Replying to @autogynamelia @dreamingnoctis and
That's why Vampire the Masquerade has multiple vampire clans and has the whole ongoing Nosferatu/Toreador feud
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Replying to @arthur_affect @autogynamelia and
Occasionally they forget that the shtick is basically "each clan is one particular set of Vampire tropes", but the game is best when it's fully aware of it.
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Replying to @social_scifi @autogynamelia and
Yeah the whole idea is there's such a dizzying array of vampire powers and weaknesses it would be almost impossible to play a single character who embodied all of them so they spread them out
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
IIRC there's even a thing where they typically used "repelled by garlic" as an example of the ridiculous things humans believe about vampires but then there's actually a family of revenats (hereditary ghouls, i.e. shitty half-vampires) who really are horribly poisoned by garlic
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
You can even pinpoint specific movies or books that inspired each Clan, like Brujah was invented to play the "teenage street punk" vampires from The Lost Boys, Toreador was the Byronic artiste vampires like Lestat from Anne Rice, etc etc
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They even outright said that Dracula (who is in the public domain) was a Tzimisce and is basically the signature character for that clan And then they invented the whole Old Clan Tzimisce thing for how his powers don't match what they made up for Tzimisce
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Replying to @arthur_affect @social_scifi and
Yeah I always thought Tzimisce was a weird pick for Dracula since they're basically the Wamphyri from Necroscope copy/pasted. He should've been a Lasombra. They were obviously patterned after him more than any other source.
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