I would say that just saying the setting of Mage: the Ascension is "human culture decides what's true with no external inputs" is deeply unfair That doesn't actually make any sense -- then normal mundane scientists would never be able to disprove theories, etc.
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The metaplot of Mage is very much that the Consensus *is* being pushed and prodded and pulled by subtle forces ordinary Mages don't really understand, and the whole journey of Ascension is to try to figure it out
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It's the whole thing in Time of Judgment with Days of Fire angrily warning the Mages that they're just tenants busting up the furniture as though the original architect and landlord is never coming back But he is, and he's mad (and Hunters are just the foam on the tide)
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Like this is actually a big thing in Mage, the universe "wants" death to exist, and is becoming "stricter" about it as time passes The Dark Ages stuff for Mage with the backstory of the Tremere -- making youth potions used to be relatively easy, it's getting harder and harder
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And it's obviously not because regular mortals *want* to die Nobody wants to die, and yet something deep inside of us, this cosmic force, keeps whispering this awful idea that it's inevitable, that we *must* die, that we *will* die (The Wyrm from Werewolf, Oblivion from Wraith)
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House Tremere was so terrified of this and so unwilling to accept that the laws of magic were telling them they had to give it up and accept death they took the only way out they could find, becoming Clan Tremere, without understanding what a terrible price Death would demand
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
sounds like they should've attacked and dethroned god first
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Replying to @perdricof @Nymphomachy
That is, in fact, exactly what Lucifer tried to do and the Time of Judgment novels are about how he's an alcoholic now
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
you come at the king of kings, you best not miss
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Replying to @perdricof @Nymphomachy
Well that's just it At least apparently, it worked The Rebel Host stormed the throne room of God at she was just... gone
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Demon: the Fallen is about how the true demons, the "major demons" who are genuine fallen angels from the First Age, are starting to awaken and crawl out of the Abyss and possess humans Raring to start the war again but there's NO ONE TO FIGHT AGAINST
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God just fucked off and took the Loyal Host with her There's just... no one there, and as a result the universe is steadily decaying God apparently wrote death and entropy and despair into the machine code of the universe and just left it running with no documentation
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And they find this fact very, very upsetting
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