So you think that would be a good idea then?
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Replying to @GirvanSands @arthur_affect and
It would be a GREAT idea to start growing people in ways that don't endanger the lives of others and cause them enormous pain. No one who purports to care about people with ovaries should be against artificial wombs.
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Replying to @ShieldingC @arthur_affect and
Actually, I would prefer a world where women are in complete control of their own bodies, but each to their own I guess
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Replying to @GirvanSands @arthur_affect and
And technology that makes it possible to choose between using your body to gestate and outsourcing the task would mean NOT being in control of your body?
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Replying to @ShieldingC @GirvanSands and
Just admit your objection has nothing to do with reducing actual harm. You're weirded out by the prospect that what is familiar to you may one day not be the universal norm. That's also your objection to surrogacy (at least when gay men benefit.)
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Replying to @ShieldingC @arthur_affect and
Wow - anther one who wants to tell me what I think and feel.
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Replying to @GirvanSands @arthur_affect and
It's not an opinion that artificial wombs would relieve a lot of needless pain and suffering, mainly of women and hence your opposition is objectively not rooted in concern for actual harm.
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Replying to @ShieldingC @arthur_affect and
What about the baby? Have you thought of that? Obviously not. Don't tell me what I think and feel. It is presumptuous and rude. Par for the course for most that have talked over me on this thread though
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Replying to @GirvanSands @arthur_affect and
What ABOUT the baby? What have I not thought of? That embryos and zygotes and fetuses get off on harming their bearers? What exactly is your argument?
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Replying to @ShieldingC @arthur_affect and
In utero bond between mother and child
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This is exactly what @Eristae was talking about, the idea that separation from their "real mother" causes irreparable harm to adopted children
Which is a much more relevant and emotionally fraught conversation than this horseshit that we'll all wake up in Huxley's dystopia
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ShieldingC and
No - he compared growing kids in vats to adoption. Not really the same.
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Replying to @GirvanSands @ShieldingC and
Why is it not the same, specifically, and what evidence do you have for this distinction that isn't made up by a science fiction writer
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