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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. pam berkeley‏ @pmberkeley 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @Fortister and

      Yeah, sorry, this debate isn't about formula. At all.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Räv‏ @Eristae 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @pmberkeley @Fortister and

      ...the alternative to breastfeeding is formula.

      1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
    3. pam berkeley‏ @pmberkeley 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @Fortister and

      No, there's also milk donation/purchasing. This is so ridiculous.

      8 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @pmberkeley @Eristae and

      So if Cohen were able to get donor milk through a milk bank, or the surrogate (or someone else) were able and willing to act as a wet nurse, you'd shut the fuck up and get off his back? I'm skeptical

      2 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
    5. pam berkeley‏ @pmberkeley 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and

      So if the people making the decision to have a baby by surrogacy were actually prioritizing the well-being of BOTH mother and child, I'd shut the fuck up? Yes. Yes. That is my entire fucking point. It doesn't matter if you're skeptical. You're not "with" the discussion.

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @pmberkeley @Eristae and

      Okay, delete the part about the surrogate also acting as wet nurse, which you clearly interpret as a backdoor to "allowing her to be the baby's real mom" (gross) Would you shut the fuck up if he had a steady supply of donor milk from a bank

      2 replies 2 retweets 20 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @pmberkeley and

      (In reality, the most common scenario for surrogacy based on my reading is that the surrogate does in fact continue pumping and sending milk to the parents, but does not actually nurse the baby herself and bond with the infant, which, yes, I am well aware is your real objection)

      2 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    8. Callalily‏ @Callalily57 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @pmberkeley and

      And, of course, there would be the exact same decisions to make with adopting an infant. None of those choices are unique to surrogacy.

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @Callalily57 @pmberkeley and

      The arguments against surrogacy are MUCH STRONGER arguments against infant adoption, like infant adoption is in fact "worse" in terms of these problem areas in every single way, so the way so many of these people play the "Why not just adopt" card is very galling

      1 reply 2 retweets 16 likes
    10. pam berkeley‏ @pmberkeley 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Callalily57 and

      Children who are orphaned by life circumstances with no family to take them in, or who are not able to be cared for by their parents, are usually "undesirables" in the communities seeking to have a baby by surrogacy. These adoptions are not even a little problematic.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
      Replying to @pmberkeley @Callalily57 and

      Older child adoption through the foster care system (and the vast majority of such children are older, that's the overwhelming factor making them "undesirable") is such a different topic from both surrogacy and infant adoption it really shouldn't be in the same conversation

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        2. pam berkeley‏ @pmberkeley 23 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Callalily57 and

          Nobody has a right to an infant.

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        3. Random832‏ @Random832 23 Sep 2020
          Replying to @pmberkeley @arthur_affect and

          it's very convenient for you that you decide what are rights and what aren't, isn't it. suppose I say no one has a right to a relationship with their biological mother, what do you have to say to that?

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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 23 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pmberkeley and

          And it is definitely much more than "a little problematic" The good foster trainings will tell you straight up that people engaging with the system because they're seeking a solution for their own infertility are making a big mistake

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