I mean, it also wasn't legal to breastfeed in public & Nestle pushed formulae so it could get rich, so the changes haven't been all bad. But these people are using it as an excuse to attack unconventional families, so fuck them.
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Replying to @Fortister @arthur_affect and
God, the shit that people get for even *supplementing* with formula is *amazing.* It doesn't even have to be, "I only use formula," but "I also use formula," and the flipping out begins.
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Replying to @Eristae @Fortister and
Yeah, sorry, this debate isn't about formula. At all.
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Replying to @pmberkeley @Fortister and
...the alternative to breastfeeding is formula.
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Replying to @Eristae @Fortister and
No, there's also milk donation/purchasing. This is so ridiculous.
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Replying to @pmberkeley @Eristae and
So if Cohen were able to get donor milk through a milk bank, or the surrogate (or someone else) were able and willing to act as a wet nurse, you'd shut the fuck up and get off his back? I'm skeptical
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Eristae and
So if the people making the decision to have a baby by surrogacy were actually prioritizing the well-being of BOTH mother and child, I'd shut the fuck up? Yes. Yes. That is my entire fucking point. It doesn't matter if you're skeptical. You're not "with" the discussion.
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Replying to @pmberkeley @Eristae and
Okay, delete the part about the surrogate also acting as wet nurse, which you clearly interpret as a backdoor to "allowing her to be the baby's real mom" (gross) Would you shut the fuck up if he had a steady supply of donor milk from a bank
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Replying to @arthur_affect @pmberkeley and
(In reality, the most common scenario for surrogacy based on my reading is that the surrogate does in fact continue pumping and sending milk to the parents, but does not actually nurse the baby herself and bond with the infant, which, yes, I am well aware is your real objection)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @pmberkeley and
And, of course, there would be the exact same decisions to make with adopting an infant. None of those choices are unique to surrogacy.
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The arguments against surrogacy are MUCH STRONGER arguments against infant adoption, like infant adoption is in fact "worse" in terms of these problem areas in every single way, so the way so many of these people play the "Why not just adopt" card is very galling
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Callalily57 and
Children who are orphaned by life circumstances with no family to take them in, or who are not able to be cared for by their parents, are usually "undesirables" in the communities seeking to have a baby by surrogacy. These adoptions are not even a little problematic.
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Replying to @pmberkeley @arthur_affect and
Children who are "are orphaned by life circumstances with no family to take them in" are incredibly difficult to find, and "who are not able to be cared for by their parents," is a category that is very tricky because the parents often could care for the kids given support.
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