My Octopus Teacher has sex and a touching relationship between a man and an octopode, but the sex is between two octopus. The human/octopus contact is platonic. https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1308498541397118976 …
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Replying to @beyerstein
this is doing my head in. you can't just go "the man has an erotic relationship with an octopus" on a general public website, then act all shocked & pivot to "you rube, you simpleton, how could you possibly have thought I meant he wanted to screw the octopus, you absolute onion"
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Replying to @dsquareddigest
But he doesn’t have an erotic relationship with an octopus. Not even close. That’s just not an accurate description of the film.
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Replying to @beyerstein
I know. All this kerfuffle could have been saved if some professor had thought "oh hang on, maybe my queer theory terminology isn't the best way to describe an identifiable private citizen on Twitter and his relationship with an octopus"
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Replying to @dsquareddigest
I can’t even imagine how that claim comes out true in Queer Theory.
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Replying to @beyerstein @dsquareddigest
For the record, "erotic" and "eros" are explicitly much broader terms in queer theory than in everyday usage It's not just queer theory either, it's a very common thing, arguably going back to ancient Greece itself
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Isn't Eros literally the Greek god of lust?
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That's actually one of the most obvious examples of the multiple meanings of the term There's Eros (Cupid) who's Aphrodite's son and shoots arrows to make you fall in love, yes There's also Hesiod naming Eros as a primordial creator deity who created all other life
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Replying to @arthur_affect @badtakesbot1 and
After Gaea and Tartarus arose from Chaos came Eros, whose existence enabled the union of opposites that enabled all other gods to come into being You can say he represents "sex" but it's in an obviously metaphorical, abstract sense
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Replying to @arthur_affect @badtakesbot1 and
That's where Freud and Jung got this shit about "eros" just meaning "desire" or "life force" in the first place Plato writing all this shit about how eros is the yearning to make a true connection outside the self so that something new might be created
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Of which actual sexual intercourse and pregnancy was, in Plato's view, just the most common and least enlightened example When you say "platonic love" to mean non-sexual love the word for love Plato used, from which we get that term, was "eros"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @badtakesbot1 and
I mean this shouldn't be that hard to get What's the Latin name for Eros the god again? "Cupid" What does "cupidity" actually mean in English today? Usually it's desire... for money, not sex (the dictionary has it as a synonym for "avarice" or "greed")
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Right, but here you're trying to redefine a Greek word by appealing to a different (English) word derived from its later Roman counterpart. Synonyms don't work like that! Even words from the same root diverge over time. Why use 'eros' as a root if you mean something else? (1/2)
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