But in any case - In real life obviously these definitions weren't so clear cut, and people openly stole the word "philia" to use in place of "eros" as a euphemism ("pederasts" renamed themselves "pedophiles" to make the way they "love children" sound less bad)
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You could even argue that depending on your view of sex, sex could as easily go with philia as eros The Greek god Eros (Cupid for Romans) was the one who shot you with arrows that made you go crazy with obsession, "love at first sight" But there was also the goddess Philotes
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Philotes, the goddess of philia, was the goddess of people "getting along", she's the good twin sister of Neikea, the goddess of quarrels And that explicitly *included* sex - she's the goddess of sex, as in the sex act (as opposed to more important things like marriage)
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There's plenty of people who would say that sex is something they do with friends to keep things friendly with each other, for fun, and not necessarily an expression that the other person is the most beautiful thing your soul has ever known Which would horrify Lewis, but hey
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In practice not so sure. Supposedly he had a sexual relationship with the shrewish mother of a deceased fellow soldier whom he promised he'd look after her, and initially his relationship with wife Joy Davidman was friendship/immigration fraud.
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Mr Lewis was a... complicated person And yes the question of whether he and Mrs Moore ever actually had sex remains highly controversial, but I think part of the point of this thread is whether that even matters
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Lewis and Mrs Moore had this weird fucked up thing where his friends said she constantly infantilized and belittled him in public and it clearly got under his skin but he mysteriously just let her do it Very... Norman Bates Only she wasn't even his real mother
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So... very Armin Tamzarian
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Replying to @arthur_affect @aneas_anois
I didn't recognize the reference, so I looked it up. Hm.
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I will die on the hill that Agnes Skinner isn't even Principal Skinner's actual mother and that he *chose this life* as an *adult* because it fulfills some twisted need of his That's not ruining Simpsons canon, that's fucking BRILLIANT WRITING you cowards
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The whole thing where the real Seymour comes home and just kind of casually ignores her attempts to bully him because - despite having just been released from prison - he's a normal adult with a normal amount of self-esteem And this sends her into spiraling crisis
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