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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @aneas_anois

      No, not really In actual ancient Greece they were just two words for "love", with "agape" more commonly used in the context of family love and "eros" in the context of what we'd call romance

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    2. lawless says rescue scotus‏ @lawless523 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @aneas_anois

      What about philadelphia, brotherly love?

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      Right, CS Lewis popularized divvying up the concept of "love" among the four Greek words "eros", "philia", "agape" and "storge", although the actual ancient Greeks probably didn't view it nearly so rigidly

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      "Philia" gets its highfalutin sense of "brotherly love" from Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics, where he says philia itself is a necessary virtue to be a complete human being, to have "true friends" Although one example of philia he gives is, in fact, lovers courting

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      A better translation for "philia" in English might be "loyalty" The idea that you can't be a complete person without deciding that you're going to be on your friends' side, that you'll stick up for them, that these are your people

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      Which is why the Greeks also saw "philautia" ("self-love") as possibly being a virtue and not a vice "Selfishness" isn't always bad "Loving yourself" in the sense of saying "I have to always be on my side, I have to swear to be my own friend and not my enemy" (basic therapy)

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      Anyway because of this obviously philia is a person-to-person thing and eros doesn't have to be Plato was the one who wrote about eros and he said that its lowest form was sexual attraction to another person but in its highest form it's a pure reaction to "beauty"

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      CS Lewis said he thought of philia as "side-by-side love" and eros as "face-to-face" Philia is when you see someone else in your life as your teammate, as someone playing the same game as you Eros is when another person is the goalpost, or the ball

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      (Which is why he, as a good Christian, thought of eros as much more likely to be toxic and sinful, why men can desire women without even really liking or respecting them)

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      But in any case - In real life obviously these definitions weren't so clear cut, and people openly stole the word "philia" to use in place of "eros" as a euphemism ("pederasts" renamed themselves "pedophiles" to make the way they "love children" sound less bad)

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

      You could even argue that depending on your view of sex, sex could as easily go with philia as eros The Greek god Eros (Cupid for Romans) was the one who shot you with arrows that made you go crazy with obsession, "love at first sight" But there was also the goddess Philotes

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

          Philotes, the goddess of philia, was the goddess of people "getting along", she's the good twin sister of Neikea, the goddess of quarrels And that explicitly *included* sex - she's the goddess of sex, as in the sex act (as opposed to more important things like marriage)

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 22 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @lawless523 @aneas_anois

          There's plenty of people who would say that sex is something they do with friends to keep things friendly with each other, for fun, and not necessarily an expression that the other person is the most beautiful thing your soul has ever known Which would horrify Lewis, but hey

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