For whatever it's worth: The etymology of "guy" is literally from Guy Fawkes. Etymology isn't the same as usage, ofc, but it's so weird seeing the fights people have about how it's "inherently gendered". It's such an obvious edge case.
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I mean that's the reason there's a show called Guys and Dolls, that was a thing, it was a slang way to say "men and women"
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Right, but it's still a really weird corner case as far as "how do words become gendered".
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