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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Sep 2020

      Playing Torment: Tides again. It's a very compelling game, to me at least (and one of two games I'm technically credited in thanks to Kickstarter) but it reminds me how much choice based games need to grow

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    2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Sep 2020

      Despite being supposedly subversive, it's incredibly obvious the best outcome is always the "indigo" and "blue" choices: learn more information and resolve conflicts between people through compromise

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    3. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Sep 2020

      It's supposed to be a dark story but it leaves no incentive to make bad decisions

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    4. Abigail Nussbaum‏ @NussbaumAbigail 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl

      I guess the really sophisticated approach would be for there to be no "bad" decisions, just differently-weighted ones. After all, if the player is making the decisions, the emotional heft that makes real people choose badly doesn't exist.

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    5. Abigail Nussbaum‏ @NussbaumAbigail 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NussbaumAbigail @BootlegGirl

      So instead of pressuring the player to choose the bad option (and then making them feel guilty for that) you could offer choices with different rewards and consequences, depending on what the player values. (Obviously, this is really hard.)

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    6. Matthew Vilter‏ @MatthewVilter 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NussbaumAbigail @BootlegGirl

      I think the basic problem you might run into is that you then sort of need to ~validate a variety of different approaches to each situation in your game.

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    7. Matthew Vilter‏ @MatthewVilter 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @MatthewVilter @NussbaumAbigail @BootlegGirl

      OTOH I'm not sure I really have a problem with being made to feel guilty for taking bad choices. Like, seeing things go horribly wrong one way or another can be its own reward.

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    8. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @MatthewVilter @NussbaumAbigail

      Yeah but that doesn't work if the game has any sort of challenge mechanics To be fair this is a really hard problem. Like I can't think of any RPG system, CRPG or tabletop, that would be likely to produce Ellie's story in TLOU2

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    9. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @MatthewVilter @NussbaumAbigail

      If you make evil lead to an endgame without resolving the story and good lets you get answers to questions and resolve the story, as almost every CRPG at least goes, you get the status quo: even a self interested PC will sneak around, influence, ask questions, negotiate

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @MatthewVilter @NussbaumAbigail

      I always thought Undertale was interesting for only giving you the "full story" of what happened from the bad guy's POV if you play the Genocide route and become the bad guy yourself As well as that being the only way to see the Sans boss fight and get his tantalizing hints

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          It's funny because the fanbase simultaneously says that playing that route is badwrongfun AND has memed the ending of that route into by far the most recognizable thing from the game, eventually getting it promoted to a cameo in Smash

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        3. Plutoburns‏ @Plutoburns 14 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          This is helped by the base game being really forgiving until like the last couple boss fights so people CAN get some fun out of it. Then the same youtube machine that churned out Dark Souls Lore can let them fan fic the stuff they didnt play

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