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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

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    1. The Divine Miss Darci‏ @saintwalker98 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl

      idk I think they're more like Prometheus? their existence is contradicted by other movies but they themselves represent a tangent canon, see also the Sarah Connor Chronicles, it can't co-exist with 3 & 4 or with Dark Fate or Genisys

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    2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @saintwalker98

      The point is that Dark Fate doesn't rely on any content from those movies to extrapolate the Skynet future

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    3. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @saintwalker98

      If they did, John would have been killed before T3 by Carl. That alone proves the timelines aren't related

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    4. The Divine Miss Darci‏ @saintwalker98 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl

      not exactly, there has to be an altered timeline to reach the Skynet future where John wasn't assassinated, otherwise he'd never be a target in the future and you collapse under paradox, the events where John became a resistance leader still happened and that's Carl's timeline

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    5. The Divine Miss Darci‏ @saintwalker98 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @saintwalker98 @BootlegGirl

      that's what i mean by Terminator time travel isn't adaptive, if it were Carl would be wiped from existence as soon as SKynet was prevented, each alteration to the timeline builds on itself

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    6. Brian McNatt‏ @TheBrianMcNatt 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @saintwalker98 @BootlegGirl

      I guess we're operating under something similar to the Endgame method of time travel? Where it doesn't alter events, just splits off new timelines? Which, come to think of it, was also how things worked in Genysis. Sort of. I think? Man, that movie was weird.

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    7. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @TheBrianMcNatt @saintwalker98

      I think it's more that time travelers exist outside of time. One timeline, but those who travel through time avoid the normal chain of causality

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @TheBrianMcNatt @saintwalker98

      "One timeline, that changes" is inherently a logical paradox and time travel geeks have brought this up over and over again -- the only two coherent options are "one timeline, period" or "multiple timelines, period" A timeline can't "change" because change *requires time*

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      For something to change, there's a version of it that exists "before" and one that exists "after", that's two timelines And the whole point of time travel is to confront the "normal" version of this (to be able to travel to 1984 from 2029 means 1984 "still exists")

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      The idea of a "changing timeline" requires "meta-time", which is, itself, just another way to say "multiple timelines", and creates all these paradoxes if you try to imagine it from the POV of anyone but the time traveler

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

      Like if I go back in time and stop Trump's election and "wipe out this timeline", what actually happens to all the people I left behind in my time machine At what "point in time" do they get "wiped out" and replaced, instantly when I get in the machine or what

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        1. Arquinsiel Teknogrot‏ @Teknogrot 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          This is why I feel that Timeline was the only semi-sensible time travel story, and even then...

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        2. The Divine Miss Darci‏ @saintwalker98 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl @TheBrianMcNatt

          As I recall there were numerous Star Trek episodes about this, also in Justice League TAS we SEE this happen where Superman gets sent back from the future and then that future fades out of existence

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        3. Kaworu from LA‏ @TellerGrim 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @saintwalker98 @arthur_affect and

          Once again, the DCAU does it best.

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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          Anyway the best setting I've seen that takes "meta-time" seriously is the fangame Ex Tempore, and the way it actually works (Ex Tempore is the only place you can go to be "outside of time") is headache-inducing for typical time travel stories http://www.aleph.se/Nada/Game/Fukuyama/index.html …

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        2. Talie Low‏ @TalieLow 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          Do you view this idea as the same as "multiple timelines, but the original timeline is destroyed immediately after the time traveler inserts themselves into the newly created timeline"?

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        3. Talie Low‏ @TalieLow 9 Sep 2020
          Replying to @TalieLow @arthur_affect and

          Farscape basically used that model, but the other timelines are in a state of partial existence rather than completely gone. Unrealised Realities. It renders wormhole travellers (and thus potential time travellers) as functionally God, able to alter and destroy reality

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