Like I get that artists aren't obligated to do labor for people for free. But it really sucks that y'all have exclusive power to represent an entire domain of human communication that the rest of us will never be able to express unless we are very rich and can hire you
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And other "thought workers" don't get paid the way everyone says artists should be paid. I guess if you become a tenure track professor or your novel hits the NYT best seller list, you've got that tenuously. But society values visual art far more than any other thought work.
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And I'm sorry, but having had a tenure track professor job, artists have it so much easier. You can take time off and no one says you're "off the art track" and won't hire you back into your field. You can pretty much always get people to hire you for commissions
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And having visual art skills even makes breaking into technology easier - apart from gaming, UI design is basically drawing. And not being good at drawing may be a challenge for me trying to be a programmer
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It really sucks and I wish artists would check their privilege instead of talking about how much those of us born with brains that cannot do the amazing feats you can (no sarcasm, it is amazing) don't appreciate you
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This is probably a jackass post. It's just I looked up how much it would cost to hire someone to make some very basic pixel art sprites so I could make a simple game, and I found an article literally saying I should pay $1000 to $20000 for every pixel art sprite
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
It is not typical for anyone working on an indie game to get paid $1,000 to $20,000 for anything
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
At the point where you’re contracting out artists you’re already an established professional even if you’re an otherwise solo indie dev... well or you’re independently wealthy
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The problem is that's basically a restatement of the problem she's talking about - that you're not allowed to be *just an indie dev* if you can't make art, that you get people saying that just by not doing your own art you get judged by the standards of established professionals.
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Yeah exactly, if I go to one of the cheap gig economy sites and pay someone a couple hundred bucks for some art assets, I'm not just a Boss but an Exploitative Boss Meanwhile Toby Fox can draw his own 8 bit stuff so he's a hero
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He had other artists working on Undertale (most notably Temmie Chang), and AFAIK the deal was a fair percentage of the take on the Kickstarter and further profits
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Right, while there are people who overly universalize messages meant for established and successful developers generally it’s not seen as exploitative to use open source assets or work with other volunteers on hobby projects
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Replying to @Cybren @arthur_affect and
I too have the “can’t do art for shit” problem to be honest, though I am still riding high on my laurels of making one halfway decent sprite for an RPGToolkit project back in 2004
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