Actual epidemiologists have been saying THIS WHOLE TIME that you should never, ever use the term "herd immunity" except in the context of vaccinationhttps://twitter.com/culturalfatwa/status/1301450478518177792 …
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Arthur Chu Retweeted Señor Vice Signaller
Actual epidemiologists have been saying THIS WHOLE TIME that you should never, ever use the term "herd immunity" except in the context of vaccinationhttps://twitter.com/culturalfatwa/status/1301450478518177792 …
Arthur Chu added,
what's the difference between immunity by vaccine and immunity by (surviving) the disease? if immunity lasts, how *wouldnt* a disease saturate and stop spreading?
Vaccine herd immunity means that two million susceptible people don't die. Disease immunity means that everyone susceptible to it or just unlucky (as it kills some healthy people) dies or suffers long-term or permanent damage, most people become resistant, and it keeps killing.
i know doing it "the vaccine way" is far far better and prevents millions of deaths, but i dont see how once most people are immune, the virus will keep spreading? where is it expanding to?
Like Smallpox or Polio, it will keep infecting new births and people who become immunocompromised. It'll also get spread to other populations; think of how colonists devastated native peoples by introducing diseases. We'll see mutated outbreaks getting handed back and forth.
We don't actually know yet if we CAN develop immunity, which is terrifying. There are people surviving covid and catching it again a few months later. Also, anti-vaxxers are causing measles outbreaks, and measles destroys other immunities, it turns out. Nasty.
To be fair, the stories of people getting COVID-19 again are unsubstantiated, and may just be the result of antibody tests continuing to detect remnant antibodies for a long time in the blood
COVID-19 seems to be a fairly typical coronavirus with the only difference being that it's much more contagious because of its much longer incubation period It would be very odd for a coronavirus to not confer lasting residual immunity
Residual immunity just means you can't get it again right away, it doesn't mean you can't get it again years later, especially if the virus has had time to mutate
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