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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      Like that's her whole point, this goes beyond abstract moral approval of wrongdoers being punished, people *actively seek it out*, they make whole subreddits for it, it's one of their hobbies

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      There's a difference between believing that an execution is morally necessary and demanding to be in the audience for it Not just saying it's okay if racists get punched but making a YouTube channel collecting clips of racists getting punched from across the country

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      And I mean I don't think she's saying that's bad, I think she's just saying our norms are in conflict Liberal modern society pretends that we all hate violence and harm and having to punish wrongdoers is a grim necessity we only do out of duty

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      But of course we're lying, humans are weak If we actually didn't want to punish people, we just wouldn't punish them When we do punish people it's because we like it, it makes us feel good, it's baked into the brain's reward centers And I think she's just saying to own that

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    5. phyphor‏ @phyphor 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      I'm all here for not punishing people. People either do bad things because they're bad people or because they're forced into it. If they're bad people then maybe therapy and access to medications could help and, if not, then maybe they need to be kept safely away from others.

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    6. phyphor‏ @phyphor 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @phyphor @arthur_affect and

      But none of that is punishment. And why would you punish someone for something outside their control? If they're forced into it then we need to improve whatever systemic issue caused that, and help the person escape that pressure. Again, what does punishment achieve?

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @phyphor @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

      That's what Contra sort of gets into with this video Our basic psychological drives -- which is what our intellectual moral beliefs are ultimately based on -- are evolved, not designed

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and

      The "strategy" we're programmed to take with enemies/threats is "rational" in the grand scheme of things, because it evolved out of what helped us survive against said threats But it wasn't set up by some moral authority presuming centralized power

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and

      Our morality didn't come from a situation where there even was an overarching "we" or "us", some kind of authority who decides what's ultimately best for everyone That's something that evolved out of our society much more recently, and is arguably still mostly only an ideal

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and

      When there's no universal "we" and "we" is just me and my small group of friends against a hostile universe, retribution makes *perfect* sense It's the basic way you keep threats at bay, it's game theory You teach people not to mess with you by making them pay if they do

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and

      And this response is baked in, it's visceral, it forms the basis of much of "human nature" across different cultures When someone fucks with you you have an immediate response that they need to be punished, based on a deep fear response that if you don't, they'll do it again

      8:35 PM - 4 Sep 2020
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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor and

          It's a deeply ingrained fear response, and persists even if it seems "irrational" (like a situation where it seems, on a practical level, unlikely that the crime will be repeated) It *feels wrong* to just let it go, the sense that an unpunished sin will recur is very powerful

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        1. phyphor‏ @phyphor 4 Sep 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @chrysopoetics

          Society only functions because we have behaviours over the top of instinctive and visceral behaviour. I would hate to live in a society that allowed that sort of thing to happen.

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