My alternative to yelling at strangers on the internet? Build relationships with people to your left based on common interests and goals. Engage with people you know, respectfully. Make the affirmative case for your position. Organize.
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And, again, recognize that attempting to convert never-Biden leftists is a poor use of time and energy that could otherwise be spent on more productive forms of electoral activism.
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Replying to @studentactivism @arthur_affect
"Never-Biden leftists" are just Trumpists. Obviously. How naïve are we here? There are two types of interactions in this, again, straight-up culture war: interactions that get Trump elected and interactions that don't get Trump elected.
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If you have a way to make an affirmative case that leads to Trump not being elected, I very much encourage you do that. If you are on the Internet telling people to not push back against bad-faith narratives that get Trump elected, you're getting Trump elected.
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I want to push back on the idea that because you see something on the Internet that means you must respond because if you don't it's sitting there as a siren song "converting normies" as we speak (I know, I know, physician heal thyself)
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It sounds like a great recipe for spending 100% of your time screaming at trolls online while not actually changing what anyone thinks about anything
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I have to say, this "cost of opportunity" argument would be a lot more compelling if anybody could point at the actually effective alternatives. Because so far they aren't working great, either. Definitely not on the online space.
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Replying to @MudDude4 @studentactivism
Arguing isn't effective either though It's like the least effective thing, it's absurdly ineffective That's why they're trying to get you to do it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @studentactivism
No, they're trying to get you to do it because either you don't, and it seems like you lost, or you do, and they trust they can force you into a gotcha. You can absolutely win an argument with them if you assume that the ones keeping score are the ones not posting, though.
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Replying to @MudDude4 @studentactivism
Lol no you can't Jesus Christ I think I know more about playing this game than you do and as a result I'm a lot more jaded about it than you It's not actual persuasion of any kind, it's just entertainment
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You're like completely enthralled by the dopaminergic feedback loop of social media and you don't even realize how you're just rationalizing what it does to your glands personally as some kind of analysis of wider society or whatever
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Nobody's watching you argue with the troll Nobody gives a shit The troll is dangling the idea of a peanut gallery ready to leap into the arms of the alt-right lest liberalism be proven false and hollow as cheap bait It's bullshit though
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It's not one troll. It's not the direct hits. It's the aggregate effect. Again, this is not news. We understand this. Before it happened online it happened in cafes and pubs. We know what subtly fringe ideas being spouted without pushback does to normalize them.
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