We're still doing this? It's a culture war. They're arguing in bad faith. You don't push back to convince them, you push back to stop them from accreting normies who are on the fence.
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Replying to @MudDude4 @arthur_affect
I think liberals yelling at accelerationist leftists on Twitter are more likely to alienate the accellerationist-curious than pull them toward voting Biden.
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Replying to @studentactivism @arthur_affect
Sure. Silence on the face of increasing radicalization is a well known way to stop radicalization. We've known that's not how it works for what? Fifty years now? What we haven't figured out is how to stop it on the Internet. Doing nothing is not it, though.
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It used to be media gatekeepers who stopped it. Now they are either part of the problem or cut off from the online radicalization loop. With no alternative for pushback, Trump wins again, because his playbook works online and ours doesn't.
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If you think "yelling" won't work I really hope there's another alternative to stop the spiral, because inaction is clearly not working. Trump just got 200000 people killed and he's catching up in the polls, so...
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Replying to @MudDude4 @arthur_affect
My alternative to yelling at strangers on the internet? Build relationships with people to your left based on common interests and goals. Engage with people you know, respectfully. Make the affirmative case for your position. Organize.
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And, again, recognize that attempting to convert never-Biden leftists is a poor use of time and energy that could otherwise be spent on more productive forms of electoral activism.
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Replying to @studentactivism @arthur_affect
"Never-Biden leftists" are just Trumpists. Obviously. How naïve are we here? There are two types of interactions in this, again, straight-up culture war: interactions that get Trump elected and interactions that don't get Trump elected.
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If you have a way to make an affirmative case that leads to Trump not being elected, I very much encourage you do that. If you are on the Internet telling people to not push back against bad-faith narratives that get Trump elected, you're getting Trump elected.
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Trump has a six digit casualty rate and is a proven criminal. If an "affirmative case" for libs was the gap, he'd have been laughed out by his own party by now. That's not what's happening here. If we don't acknowledge that, the Democrats are about to get sucker-punched. Again.
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It's not like screaming the "negative case" at the top of your lungs hasn't been tried
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