I don't get amused. I just feel like my skin is about to fall off and I want to go find whoever it was who did the thing and tell them it's okay.
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Replying to @CWGaither @iridienne and
I couldn't finish the joker
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Replying to @ImpPercyPtible @iridienne and
I have not watched the Joker and I have no desire to. Like...I kinda heard all of the Joker's talking points in the incel corner of reddit, and just...I dunno. The urge to make a comic-cannon mass murder psychopath into either an abused woobie or a desirable boyfriend is just...pic.twitter.com/xqWrOlRykq
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Replying to @CWGaither @iridienne and
That's an issue of course, in my case I was trying to watch so I could criticize it when people brought it up, but the reason I wasn't able to finish the movie it's because the character is portrayed as out of place with his environment, but completely un-self-aware of that.
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Replying to @ImpPercyPtible @CWGaither and
Like, the joker is cringe-indulcing on purpose. And tbh I don't think they should have done that with a character that is a villain but also someone who struggles with his mental health.
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Replying to @ImpPercyPtible @iridienne and
I just don't EVER buy the message that being treated poorly by society is what tips somebody over into being that level of monster, because there's a negation of responsibility, a kind of "look at what you made me do" that absolves the actor of consequence.
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Replying to @CWGaither @ImpPercyPtible and
If you want to get political for a sec, that's the narrative being pushed. These people died because they MADE the cops shoot and if they had just done something different, they would still be alive. That's not true.
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Replying to @CWGaither @iridienne and
I mean, when I brought up the joker it wasn't much about the politics of the movie, it was more to talk about how the movie makes the audience cringe at the joker. For example there's a scene where he's studying a stand-up comedian from the audience, and the guy is making jokes
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Replying to @ImpPercyPtible @CWGaither and
And the people in the audience is laughing, but the joker only laugh at odd times, he is completely out of sync with the audience. I think they were trying to make us think that this is the proof he's insane or something.
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Replying to @ImpPercyPtible @CWGaither and
Someone completely at odds with the people around him, but I think that's kinda messed up, becauae the character is dangerous. People who aren't "normal" are already ostracized by others, this doesn't actually help anything.
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Yyyyyeah it's a very, very tropey movie about a "madman" The ironic thing about it is it's actually NOT as sympathetic to the Joker as the defenders make it out to be Like it is enough to be problematic in that way but it's also leering at his illness in a problematic other way
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Replying to @arthur_affect @CWGaither and
I'm not saying these things are related, but it's very ironic that this movie came out around the same time Hannah Gadsby started to blow up. The reason he fails to become a comedian according to the movie is because he's neurodivergent and therefore "not funny".
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