That kind of makes more sense in the present moment in the US, when so much of history is the site of intense cultural fighting. Like, people are still fighting about Aristotle.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and
aristotle fucking sucked tho
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Replying to @Cybren @arthur_affect and
I'm for anyone who overshadows Plato. I guess the more direct analogy here might be like, an American anti-clerical faction who gets really into Pontius Pilate.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @Cybren and
Well, who gets really into Julian the Apostate, like when Gore Vidal wrote his book about him (Pontius Pilate isn't really important outside of the Christians' own stories about him, which tend to end with him becoming a Christian)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
Ok, fair. And there is a pretty broad "Rome fell because it became Christian" take out there in Western historiography, usually lauding the pagans.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @Cybren and
Yeah it's funny because we kind of associate being really into Roman paganism with witchy New Age feminism etc. today but that's a hugely whitewashed image of what it was actually like and what people nostalgic for it historically were like
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
I read a review of Vidal's Julian where the reviewer was like "Okay, but how would a modern world based on the pre-Christian Roman Empire be *better* than the one we have Like actually less sexist, racist, imperialist, in favor of slavery-based economics"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
"As obnoxious as I think the Jesus people are, the biggest difference I can see is we'd be cutting open a lot more animals to look at their entrails, instead of wastefully throwing the entrails away to make dog food"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
We all coulda gotten super into Mithras, though.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @Cybren and
It's funny to think that the reason Christianity won the War of the Weird New Religions is that it seems like it was one of the ones that was *less* weird about sex, specifically
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Like Paul going "Look you married people should boink as much as you feel like, if you must" was pretty laid-back for a mystery cult Compared to all that Manichaean shit about how you had to pray and say you were sorry every time you ate meat or popped a boner
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Cybren and
It's nicely balanced to make you feel virtuous about not doing it, while letting you do it sometimes.
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