Meh. I mean, sure, that's why Captain America is more interesting than Superman, but "hey kids, being good in a bad situation has upsides" is not a bad lesson. And it's true.
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And hey, Spider-Man teaches that lesson better, because it shows that bad things may happen to you and you need to find a way to survive that and not become a total asshole, but I do find value in the "good no matter what" archetype. Which is why bad Superman pisses me off.
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And at this point it's a tired trope. If a storyteller can't find a way to make a guy with crazy superpowers be a semi-decent guy, I'm gonna guess they haven't found a way to be a semi-decent person themselves. All hail Gail Simone, who has this shit *down* for that reason.
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*shrugs* guess I'm not a semi decent person, because as I said I simply cannot square the idea of a human being whole can hear everything in the world, every murder, child abuse, torture, everything, and not either be evil for not acting, or break down and collapse
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There's a cowardly way out: He doesn't know how to fix all and can't handle that, so he literally tunes it out. (He's been shown to be able to do this to avoid going mad.) That makes him kinda crappy and not inspiring, but not as bad as outright "oh he just doesn't give a shit".
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He doesn't have super mental health as a power you know.
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Yeah I feel like canon Superman has to be acutely aware of his own mental health as one of his practical limitations ("the importance of self-care"), especially because he's canonically aware of all the other timelines where he went nuts and killed everybody
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I don't think he can think of a way to "fix everything" that doesn't involve a lot of deaths (because there isn't one, unless you mind control the whole planet) and he can't bring himself to do it so he just banishes the thought. But eh...he could and should do better.
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Replying to @aflintflint @arthur_affect and
Like come on Clark you could read literally all the philosophy that's ever been written in a couple weeks probably. We aren't buying "Simple boy from Kansas" anymore.
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I think the primary problem is that he is essentially a god. And he knows it. He knows it all too well. So he HAS to be the "simple boy from Kansas". He has to CLING to it, because becoming something else...well, he knows what happens, even in the best timelines.
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One of my fav lines from one of my fav slept-on movies, Crimson Tide, is Gene Hackman wryly comparing his extremely practical training to become a submarine captain (engineering, ballistics, metallurgy, etc) with Denzel Washington's training in philosophy/history/poli sci
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Replying to @arthur_affect @banalexistence and
"I guess the Navy needed me to be simple And they need you to be complicated"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @banalexistence and
And that's Superman and Batman's canonical relationship in most Justice League/World's Finest stories Superman's job is to be simple, and in fact he probably needs to be simple just to survive Batman's job is to be complicated, and he similarly depends on being complicated
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