So: I have experience with naive/condescending “omg terrible thing” narratives but tend to pin my problem on sort of… the tone that’s excitedly leering “omgggg did you knowwww this is, like, bad? I blew your mind right? I totally blew your mind??”, not the beholding of torture
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Yeah - I mean, if there was a good and direct way to extract information, everyone would do it.
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The issue for me, mostly, is when the text has some kind of implicit position that nothing works EXCEPT torture, and that the only reason people don't go to torture is that they're too moral or squeamish.
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This obviously works the same way with positive rather than negative reinforcement (bribing informants etc) and people try to mitigate it in similar ways (you don't get paid until the info is confirmed, "If I find out you lied to me I'll break your other leg")
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The most coldly pragmatic argument for why torture is a bad technique for getting info is it disrupts the ability of both interrogator and interrogatee to think clearly, it gets emotions involved, and that's bad for clarity
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