What do you disagree about? Do you think that any voting choice you think is incorrect is illegitimate?
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I think a presidential primary that comes down to "none of these debates or policy discussions or statements to the press or voting records or history of embarrassing antics matters because the one issue that matters to people is if someone was vice president" is maladaptive yes
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @Superninfreak and
Especially when vice presidents are pretty much chosen on a whim without having to personally demonstrate value to the electorate orthogonal to name recognition
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Name recognition is the single most powerful thing a candidate can have. And again even though that’s dumb, I don’t think voters making poor choices means democracy doesn’t exist. Voters will inevitably make many bad choices in a democracy.
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When name recognition is rigged, a democracy that hinges on name recognition is de facto rigged, I don't get why this is controversial
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I just disagree with saying it’s “rigged” because voters had power but decided to use it poorly.
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Right, and they use it poorly with such consistency and reliability that presidents functionally get to choose their successors
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The VP is a very odd institution in many ways because of the specific way it's constitutionally enshrined without having defined responsibilities, making it tailor made for this purpose of "designated successor" But it's not like abolishing it would fundamentally change anything
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Presidents would still pretty clearly be able to designate successors The Deputy PM position in other countries doesn't work like the VP position and they don't have primaries the way they do but it's still the obvious way to position yourself as the next PM
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Britain is particularly weird in this respect because we sometimes have a Deputy PM and sometimes we don't. (The Labour Party has a post of Deputy Leader, the Conservative Party doesn't.)
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And IIRC Labour is the party that's taken the most steps to make its leadership contests more democratic right
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Yes - the membership gets to decide between all the qualifying candidates, rather than just the final two.
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Replying to @IMJackRudd @arthur_affect and
(Deputy Leader is, incidentally, not recently a good stepping-stone to the top job there; none of Starmer, Corbyn, Milliband, Brown, Blair, Smith or Kinnock held that job.)
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