Tony guns down a soldier who's shooting his and his wounded niece. That's not revenge, that's self-defense.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @arthur_affect and
Sure. I'm just saying, the fact that there is no evidence either of them pulled a TLOU2 type crusade into the interior of Austin to dispatch the guy who ordered Sarah killed indicates Joel is not innately vengeful, and literally nothing about his character deals w vengeance
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and
Like "survival" is Joel's thing. The revenge theme of 2 is NEW. I think it's VERY clear Joel cannot survive without Ellie at the end, which is why he makes the choice he does. If she were dead I think he would probably still attack, yes, but he'd die quickly and on purpose
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and
(it interestingly occurs to me that the final level of TLOU has the same morality as the Matrix final battle: the enemy wants our friend's brain, and rather than sacrifice him for the greater good, we're going to do an Uncomfortable White Man Shooting Spree)
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
That reminds me the first time I finished the game I went 100% stealthy, in part because that's how I had played up to that point, and in part because I was certain that this being clearly the "final level" I'd be overwhelmed by tons of mooks if I got seen…
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Terry still got a bullet in the groin and another in the stomach in the end.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Sorry, but if your brain surgery is going to kill the patient no matter what despite the fact that we can remove the skullcap and cut open the brain to remove tumors without killing the patient, this means you lack either the equipment or the skills to operate.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Well whatever it was he needed to do he needed to harvest large amounts of the fungus at once, which was completely intermingled with her brain tissue, rather than just taking out something like a tumor It's like taking out the ADAM slugs in Bioshock
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Laurent_Weppe and
Also, I doubt they have the precise, well maintained tools from before the apocalypse or the opportunity to sharpen their specialized medical skills for nearly two decades. The infrastructure that can train brain surgeon was long gone.
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Again, I'm just accepting what they say about the fungus in the dialogues as accurate - whether it's realistic in our world is not the question (absolutely nothing about the situation is scientifically plausible)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Laurent_Weppe and
The fungus isn't a separate tumor attached to the brain, it's become intermingled with and indistinguishable from her brain tissue, and in order to culture it into a vaccine he apparently needs to take out enough of it to fill a coffee cup and put it in a blender
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Laurent_Weppe and
I simply accept that the plot required that the operation would cost her life.
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