Poking hole in such a "doctor"'s abdomen is doing Hippocrates a favor. But that's me speaking, not Joel.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Back to Joel, TloU number one's story provides a weird but, in the end rather interesting, "redemption arc" for Joel. He never expresses remorse or mends his ways, at least in the first game. Joel justifies his violence by saying that he did what he had to do to survive…
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
But, as the first game hints by showing us Jackson or Bill's compound, there ARE ways to survive in his world without turning into murderous brigands or living under the heel of what's left of the US army.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
It might not have been the case in the early years after the outbreak, but by the time the main story begins, Joel HAS more options available than running contraband… And he's still cling to the "I'm a survivor"…
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
He even shouts that during his last conversation with Tess who calls him out on his bullshit.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Sure, building his own isolated compound or traveling to Jackson presents risks, but so does staying in the quarantine zone, going through spore infected buildings to evade the surveillance of soldiers and getting into gunfights with other smugglers.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
So, basically, Joel *chose* to become, or at least to stay for two decades, the ruthless survivor we see. That's why I say that his attitude is not simply a case of "nécessité fait loi", at some level, he deliberately decided to be what he is before meeting Elly.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
That's what make his redemption so unusual: there's no realy epiphany, or change in his behavior during the first game: his redemption is to go back to Jackson and *stay there*.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Going to a place where he doesn't *need* to be a "survivor" also means losing the excuse he's used for his violence all these years.
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Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and
Joel goes from law abiding citizen to violent survivor out of nescessity to violent survivor by choice, and then he meets Elly: his arc is that of a slow downfall stopped at the final threshold.
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I always thought it was pretty clear Joel at the beginning of TLoU 1 has a death wish, he's chosen the lifestyle he has because he's living on the edge and waiting for the bite or bullet that gets him
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