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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Laurent Weppe  🔻‏ @Laurent_Weppe 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @arthur_affect and

      I wouldn't even find it unbelievable if Joel destroyed any and all work on a vaccine as a final act of spite.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @arthur_affect and

      I would. Joel isn't spiteful! Again, for all Tommy says Joel made him violent, Tommy is the only one we see take revenge for Sarah! Before any of that!

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. Laurent Weppe  🔻‏ @Laurent_Weppe 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and

      Tony guns down a soldier who's shooting his and his wounded niece. That's not revenge, that's self-defense.

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    4. Laurent Weppe  🔻‏ @Laurent_Weppe 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @BootlegGirl and

      Tommy, not Tony

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    5. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Laurent_Weppe @arthur_affect and

      Sure. I'm just saying, the fact that there is no evidence either of them pulled a TLOU2 type crusade into the interior of Austin to dispatch the guy who ordered Sarah killed indicates Joel is not innately vengeful, and literally nothing about his character deals w vengeance

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    6. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and

      Like "survival" is Joel's thing. The revenge theme of 2 is NEW. I think it's VERY clear Joel cannot survive without Ellie at the end, which is why he makes the choice he does. If she were dead I think he would probably still attack, yes, but he'd die quickly and on purpose

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    7. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and

      (it interestingly occurs to me that the final level of TLOU has the same morality as the Matrix final battle: the enemy wants our friend's brain, and rather than sacrifice him for the greater good, we're going to do an Uncomfortable White Man Shooting Spree)

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    8. Stuart Wilke‏ @StuartMWilke 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and

      I mean, I feel the need to make the counterargument that both options are risking one thing that'll contribute to the greater good for another. If they don't rescue Morpheus, Smith'll get into Zion, and if they attempt the rescue they're risking The Chosen One.

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    9. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @StuartMWilke @Laurent_Weppe and

      But they could kill Morpheus and risk neither

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    10. Stuart Wilke‏ @StuartMWilke 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BootlegGirl @Laurent_Weppe and

      You're right, forgot that was the sacrifice option here, not just "leave him to the machines because it'll risk Neo to rescue him". Counterargument rescinded.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @StuartMWilke @BootlegGirl and

      It's still not really the same thing, because Neo isn't *really* risking failure here, Tank can still unplug Morpheus if they get killed trying to break into the building He's risking him and Trinity's lives but he's not really risking the rebel cause more than he was before

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 11 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @StuartMWilke and

          Also part of the point here is the irony that Neo has lost faith that he's the One after talking to the Oracle and that he chooses to sacrifice himself by convincing Trinity he's *not* the One ("I'm just some guy") and by so doing proves that he actually is

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        3. Stuart Wilke‏ @StuartMWilke 11 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and

          Yeah, but it's still more similar than my initial counterargument gave it credit for :)

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