If you mean re: the STI thing, I mean, we see people breathing some spores in visible spore-clouded air and it's not a definite infection; I feel like sex juices, bluntly, probably contain very few spores
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Also, you eat food with your teeth, which are bone, so that could be how it started. Not in the blood, but the bone
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @muddlewait
You could take a significant sample of bone from someone without killing them Even losing an arm is better than death
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I mean none of these examples satisfy me that they go together with the ending of TLoU 1 If you don't actually have to get the fungus out of the brain for the cure to be possible at all then Jerry is just an idiot as well as a monster
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It's a bit of a problem only because the ending of TLOU 1 is strained and doesn't really support leaning on its mechanics so much. I mean, there's technically no reason they couldn't have waited for Ellie to die of natural causes and harvest the fungus *then*.
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...Because that could take like 60 years?
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I mean, yeah, but a as a chain of events the fact that it is possible makes not asking for Ellie's consent weirder. And that's before they decided to tell Joel before they did it. It's just hard to build a whole franchise on that one poorly designed event.
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I mean is it really so hard to believe that, especially given the dialogue from the audio logs in 1 and in the flashbacks in 2, that the Fireflies were tired of violence for a noble goal and just wanted to do one more atrocity and be finished?
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Well, yeah, but then why is she alive on the table when Joel arrives? Just kill her and take the thing, lie about what happened later. Or ask her first and only do that if she says no. It can be hand-waved in the moment, but the mechanics of the moment are flimsy in retrospect.
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If you've already decided to kill her no matter what, waking her up to tell her about it is both a cruel and an unacceptably risky act Morally it only compounds your sins (now you're a murderer *and* a liar and, if she says no and you kill her anyway, an oathbreaker)
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The big issue here is Marlene deciding to tell Joel, which is a smaller risk - and act of cruelty - because she can't silence that pang of selfish conscience, she "owes it to him"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MudDude4 and
One angle I read into this scene is that no one is totally comfortable with this act of murder - why would they be - and, as humans do, they need to burden someone else with the guilt to reassure themselves they're making the right decision
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Jerry doesn't really need to ask permission from Marlene, it's his hospital, he could just do it, but he needs to to feel okay about it Marlene needs to do the same with the only other parent figure Ellie has left
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