Gotham DESERVES a hero who is willing to sacrifice their own legend to protect the city but they NEED a hero who would never let themselves be tarnished by impurity
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Replying to @saintwalker98
...I thought it was mostly the other way around? Like Gotham deserves a morally pure hero but they NEED one who will break the law to save them?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @saintwalker98
No, Batman is the "deserves" one, Harvey Dent is the "needs" one What Gordon is saying in the ending of TDK is this grimdark thing about how Batman can never actually solve the problems he's fighting against so the war will never end
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I always thought of it as saying that Gotham really ought to appreciate that they have Batman because he IS a force for good, but because Dent’s reputation has to remain untarnished, Batman’s heroism must be repudiated and disavowed, and that’s a tragedy.
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker @BootlegGirl and
boy does that point of view get undermined when in the next movie its led to a massive increase in police power and the cops form a fucking phalanx against occupy wallstreet
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Replying to @Plutoburns @DB_Grimwalker and
Yeah Rises pretty much can and should be erased from history
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @Plutoburns and
Rises keeps fucking up any kind of point being made yeah cause it sucks
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Replying to @saintwalker98 @BootlegGirl and
HE RISES TWICE! once with the robot leg and once out of the dumb prison thats a metaphor. its not just bad its inept
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Replying to @Plutoburns @BootlegGirl and
yeah Rises makes a lot more sense when you gronk that Nolan kinda hates Batman and doesn't wanta make movies about him
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Replying to @saintwalker98 @Plutoburns and
He radically reworked TDK after Ledger's death to try to make it a complete movie without including a sequel hook about the Joker coming back And he really wanted to end it there, but the studio said if he didn't finish the trilogy they'd hire someone else
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And the person they hired would've absolutely just gone ahead and cast another actor to replace Ledger as the Joker, and he wasn't having that, so he had to do Rises himself The tacked-on nature of it really shows
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Replying to @arthur_affect @saintwalker98 and
Like the actual ending of TDK makes it feel like this is an origin story for the whole long career of Batman's endless losing battle against entropy and chaos And then TDKR just says Batman's total career lasted like two years
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Replying to @arthur_affect @saintwalker98 and
Which is actually not out of line. I read an article once where a bunch of doctors evaluated the real costs of Batman’s activities and estimated he’d have the career longevity of the average NFL linebacker—five or six good years at most, barring a career-ending injury.
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