I mean, time and growing cynicism would've likely killed it anyway, but LotF was the death blow In hindsight it's a huge embarrassment this genre existed - schoolchildren get stranded in the wilderness and use what they learned in school to recreate civilization from scratch
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Often bringing enlightenment, technological advances and Christianity to an actual human tribe of "savages" who were already living in this "wilderness" Awful, unforgivable stuff
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Like even if you were just as racist as the author it's the sheer self-confidence in display in these stories - "There's nothing a British schoolboy can't figure out!" - that makes you want to beat up the whole genre and give it a swirlie
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
And LotF was SO MUCH MORE POPULAR than the stuff it was mocking (most specifically The Coral Island) and SO MUCH BETTER WRITTEN and in particularly the kids obviously SO MUCH MORE REALISTIC than in any of those other stories the genre just died
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I don't hate LotF, I don't think. I just hate the metanarrative of the book.
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect
I mean even the movie was pretty good
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Which one, 1963 black and white film or the 1990 film that makes them cadets from a US military school
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oh shit you're right I just realized the fact that they're military school cadets in the 1990 film has completely colored my entire viewpoint on the book
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I guess if you were looking for a more modern social context that's as abusive and fucked up as old British boarding schools, the best you can do is finding a bunch of American boys who desperately aspire to become Marines
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Anyway the 1990 film is very, very different from the book, it's a modernization Our teacher showed us the 1963 movie instead despite the many goofy things about it because it's a lot truer to the text
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I guess that's part of the issue, the book is unavoidably goofy if you show it onscreen, the point is these are LITTLE KIDS If you age them up to teenagers and you give them actual survival skills and training (like you'd expect military cadets to have) the whole thing changes
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Yeah shit like I completely didn't know about the changes the 1990 movie made to the book That pretty much—even keeping the text the exact same—makes it a different story entirely
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