It's funny how I hate Ray Bradbury a whole lot more than I hate George Orwell and FAHRENHEIT 451 is probably one one of the most poorly-written books I've ever had to read but as a whole, it's been a lot less harmful to political discourse than 1984, a book I actually enjoyed
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Like what the fuck is 451 even about really? I don't know. I'm not even sure Bradbury knows. Supposedly it's about "book-burning" but like Bradbury has next to no actual literacy in groups whose voices typically get targeted by book-burning. He doesn't care about Helen Keller.
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Also like. The book is probably one of the most misogynist things I ever had to read. Women are materialistic wretches without any interiorities beyond what they want to watch on television and men are sensible bookish people trying to elevate the conversation. okay.
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Well, I mean, there's two women in the story, Mildred and Clarisse, and Mildred is a target to dunk on sure but Clarisse is the agent of Montag's awakening
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It's kind of unfortunate, given the roles they play in the story, that Clarisse is supposed to be a teenager (or at most college aged)
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The film version instead played with this by having Clarisse and Mildred by played by the same actor, which kind of makes it better but also makes it worse
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I do have to point out that the book hoarder who dies in the opening scene is also a woman
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Also I mean All of these canonical white man dystopias are like this Bradbury is doing the exact same Cool Girl vs Bitch thing that Orwell did with Winston's goodthinker wife Katharine and his sexy younger mistress Julia
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And Mildred and her friends, awful as they are, are *infinitely* more sympathetic than every single woman we see in Huxley's Brave New World
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Oh hell I'll even go to bat for this - Clarisse is *better* than Julia in 1984 Montag never fucks Clarisse, and in fact one of the squicky lines he gives Montag ("You make me feel like a much older man, like a father") was meant to cut off that possibility
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Montag gets his weird crush on Clarisse because of her insight and wisdom belying her years, any stuff about her physical beauty is mostly subtext Whereas we are outright told that Julia is stupid (she pretends to follow along with Goldstein's book but doesn't get it)
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It's this really standard male writer cliché where she makes Winston come back to life and feel like there's hope in the world again because it feels good to fuck a hot younger woman who's into him for being smarter than she is
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