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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

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    1. Matt Whitehead‏ @MJWhitehead 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @arthur_affect

      MBTI's *correlation* with other, actually reliable tests does not mean the underlying methodology is good. It means they happened to stumble on some useful types while under very erroneous assumptions.

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    2. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @MJWhitehead @arthur_affect

      Stumbled upon or not, they are useful types. Few tests have 100% accurate assumptions. Scientists, including social scientists, hopefully live & learn-- as do all of us in our society. At times tho, ppl go bkwards--as we currently are bc of the propaganda so many voters believe

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    3. Matt Whitehead‏ @MJWhitehead 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @arthur_affect

      So, some small elements of MBTI are useful- mostly it can tell you a degree of introversion/extraversion. But you can basically ignore your type information, and the DEGREE of I/E is the important bit, not which "type" you are, and it also bundles this up with neuroticism.

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    4. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @MJWhitehead @arthur_affect

      Still better than the vast majority of personality tests out there.

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    5. Matt Whitehead‏ @MJWhitehead 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @arthur_affect

      Yes, viewed as a personality test it's very good in comparison, eh? But that's not how it's sold. It is sold as a rigorous psychological assessment with application to business and insight into inter-type dynamics. It's frankly surprising they haven't been sued for those claims.

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    6. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @MJWhitehead @arthur_affect

      Well, Isabel Briggs Myers died 40 yrs ago. So she's not marketing it. And not responsible for the actions of the people who are--racist though she may be. Didn't know about the novel til I read this thread.

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @MJWhitehead

      Myers got the Centre for the Application of Psychological Type off the ground in her lifetime and set up the Myers-Briggs Foundation to continue her work She was the one who started selling it to corporations and schools to be used on entry-level employees and students

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @upine @MJWhitehead

      There's a direct throughline between her work and her successors', nothing has been perverted or corrupted, it's always been the same grift

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @MJWhitehead

      Wasn't aware of that. It shouldn't be used for those purposes.

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    10. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @arthur_affect @MJWhitehead

      But we're immersed in predatory capitalism, and many areas of scholarship are corrupted by it.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @upine @MJWhitehead

      Well look even before all of this started, Jung himself cut off his correspondence with her because he didn't like where her ideas were going Saying this idea of a "shortcut" to analysis by putting people into quantifiable boxes made her a dangerous busybody

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @upine @MJWhitehead

          She wanted to diagnose-from-a-distance other neighborhood kids and intervene in their lives based on her diagnosis and he told her she absolutely could not do that and her desire to do so reflected a dangerously utopian worldview

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @upine @MJWhitehead

          It's not "capitalism" that "corrupted" her ideas, or if it is the corruption goes all the way to the original root, the desire to simplify people into solvable problems

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        2. Julie Hotard, PhD, psychologist, disinfo expert‏ @upine 8 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @MJWhitehead

          I certainly would agree that it is not a shortcut to analysis or any type of psychotherapy. Jungian ideas themselves have their flaws. And they have been used to advance predatory capitalism, Right Wing politics & racism. See Jordan Peterson.

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 8 Aug 2020
          Replying to @upine @MJWhitehead

          It's not a defense of Jung it's saying that even someone as high-handed and arrogant about the power of psychology as one of Freud's disciples found Myers too arrogant for his tastes

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