Once again, I suggested an alternative explanation for your claim, that is all. I said nothing whatsoever about your opinion on Conservative policy.
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Replying to @latsot @arthur_affect and
The point you seem to be missing here is that you're arguing that policies that the tories are happily implementing are left wing. Would you argue that the tories here are being left wing with their laws or are you trying to cover up the fact that you're talking shit?
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Replying to @robyn_gall @arthur_affect and
I'm not arguing about Tory policies *at all*. Seriously, a bit more reading comprehension and a little less hyperbole, please: I suggested what I think is a more parsimonious explanation than Chu's to a point he made. That's all.
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Replying to @latsot @robyn_gall and
Okay, even if I accepted every single shitty premise you're advancing, you're now arguing that instead of the liberals all turning conservative, the conservatives somehow all turned liberal
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
I could just as easily turn this kind of argument on you Tons of people have tried it and it just bounces off If TERFism is such a left-wing feminist ideology, why do the actual Tories love it so much?
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
Your whole argument is that trans rights were a "right-wing" platform because Theresa May halfheartedly pandered to trans people for like five minutes, and you're actively gaslighting us about the history of the Tories both before and after that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @robyn_gall and
ROFL. Seriously, imbecile. *HOW* is that "my whole argument" when I have never made any claim remotely like it? I never mentioned the Tories, their history or their policies, how can I be gaslighting anyone about them? You need help. Quite urgently by the look of it.
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Replying to @latsot @arthur_affect and
Putting aside the "right" & "left" don't mean exactly the same thing in the U.S. TERFs here were once part of the "left" - they tended to be radicals/Marxists. But we essentially kicked them out - the only political allies they have now are social conservatives on the right.
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I mean it's slightly more complicated than that -- in terms of the practical, social definition of "left", yes, they hung out with "radicals" on college campuses and stuff, they were part of the left "scene"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
I've been involved in movement atheism, secular feminism, and used to live by MichFest. Excising terfery from within "the left" is something I have quite a bit of experience with. But yes, I certainly see terfery as a betrayal of common "left" ideals and goals.
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Sorry, didn't mean to mansplain, this is something in specific I've done a lot of reading and arguing about
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
Oh gosh - no worries! I'm pretty keen that you know as much as you do about the subject!
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