I am not bundling those things together, trans people don't bundle those things together. TERFs ACCUSE trans people bundling those things together. That was the whole point of what I was saying, stop being disingenuous.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @matryoshka_core and
Ah I see. Honestly wasn't meaning to be. I agree that our "side" do make that accusation. I think it's more a reflection of how we see things playing out in a world where gender is given more credence than bio sex. The problem starts I think when ppl can't/won't define gender
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Replying to @pickleblossoms @matryoshka_core and
Trans people don't want a world where gender is given more credence than bio sex. We want a world where the things that actually matter in a given circumstance are the things that are actually considered.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @pickleblossoms and
Not being able to define gender in a watertight way that includes everybody's experiences doesn't excuse the common behaviour of strawpersonning trans people's views on what gender entails and what consequences follow from it.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @matryoshka_core and
Ok. I'll try not to do it. Can you try not to accuse us if wanting bio sex to affect how people are treated? What we actually want us for people up recognise that this is already what happens and we're sick of it.
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Replying to @pickleblossoms @matryoshka_core and
But TERFs constantly campaign for treating trans people based on their chromosomes or genital configuration at birth which demonstrates that wanting 'bio sex' to affect how people are treated is at the CORE of the movement.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @pickleblossoms and
They seem to want people to recognise how biological essentialism is harmful in terms of things like reproductive rights and in terms of sexism (a notion of sexism that ignore trans people) while also arguing FOR biological essentialism when it allows them to harm trans people.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @pickleblossoms and
If you genuinely have trouble separating sexism from trans people believing they're a particular gender then that is on you, you are the only person who can unpack that. It isn't on us to try again and again to educate a group of people who won't listen to us.
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Replying to @MxARivelin @matryoshka_core and
The most succinct way I can put it is that I didn't identify into the oppression I face as a woman. That makes for an uncomfortable relationship between the 2 concepts you mention.
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Replying to @pickleblossoms @MxARivelin and
Trans people do not "identify into oppression" Trans people, by and large, do not want to be oppressed any more than you or I do
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I don't even want to touch the argument that trans women are "oppression tourists", it's done to death and it makes me feel sick to talk about Let's talk about the mirror argument that trans men are trying to "identify OUT of oppression"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @pickleblossoms and
That's something they say too, and it's something that is incredibly, breathtakingly high-handed and arrogant to say As though *being trans* is not in and of itself something people oppress you for As though trans people are not generally *very conscious of that fact*
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Replying to @arthur_affect @pickleblossoms and
Refusing to believe you are who you say you are and analyzing everything you do as some kind of underhanded attempt to manipulate people's reactions to you IS OPPRESSION That is one of the basic ways people oppress other people You're doing it right now
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