It's not a stretch at all, a bunch of people suddenly shifting rightward after some kind of culture shock and beating on a minority in the process is extremely familiar, it's happened in my country in my lifetime multiple times
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlliaPotestas and
It could also be a clue that you might be wrong about the stance being a right wing one. At the very least it's a more parsimonious explanation than an entire generation of feminists suddenly becoming right wingers.
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Replying to @latsot @AlliaPotestas and
No, it isn't, that's a garbage argument "I'm a lifelong Democratic voter, that means that by definition my beliefs are left-liberal, including any new beliefs I suddenly start to become passionate about" Absolute affirming the consequent, do you even logic bro
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlliaPotestas and
One of us logics, I'm not so sure it's the one throwing around the strawmen.
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Replying to @latsot @AlliaPotestas and
That's literally what you just said, that your beliefs by definition are "left-leaning" because you have other beliefs that are "left-leaning"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
And even if we accept that utterly garbage premise, that political positions have any inherent meaning in and of themselves and are purely social groupings -- identity politics! -- it's false as fuck New Labour Blairites aren't "the Left"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
And TERFs aren't, in point of fact, a movement of women, except by pure tautological fiat ("feminists and their allies, as men cannot be feminists") Polls consistently show and always have shown that TERF opinions are more commonly held by men than women, by a lot
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlliaPotestas and
Where did I say *anything* was a movement of women? And what does that have to do with anything anyway?
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Replying to @latsot @AlliaPotestas and
TERFs are not a movement of feminists or of leftists or even a movement of women TERFism is a *strategy* of using feminist and left-wing *language* to advance a right-wing goal It's completely transparent to anyone who's analyzed it at all in good faith
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
You are not actually in charge of setting transphobic policies in the UK, you are a rando on Twitter Liz Truss is in charge of that, and while she is a woman, she is not a "leftist" in any sense, even the nominal sense, she's been a Tory since she was at uni
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And Liz Truss is not actually in charge, she serves under Boris Johnson, who is one of the most cartoonishly regressive toxically masculine men to hold power in the world today -- it's only a matter of Hillary Clinton's emails doesn't hold the gold medal
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
I don't believe you when you say what you're about, and I don't even think it matters if I believe you You probably do believe what you're saying, but you're being used
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Replying to @arthur_affect @latsot and
I watched Christopher Hitchens and the whole "skeptic" "New Atheist" movement shed their lefty cred and go full neocon Cheering the cluster-bombing of Afghans for reason, democracy and progress Dragging feminism into it too -- "Do you know how the Taliban treat women?!"
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