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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @nberlat @loudpenitent and

      It's definitely the originator of robots in fiction, but robots are real now! I think there's been something of a shift here, and we don't quite know what to do with it.

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    2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @nberlat and

      I mean, what is HAL? By that point, we're already starting to see robots as superiors rather than serfs. We rebel against them, and they fight back.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @nberlat and

      Hell, HAL suffers *because he wasn't allowed to do his job right*. HAL was *perfectly well-intended*, it was his superiors' fault for placing two irreconcilable axioms in front of him.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein and

      HAL is an example of an entirely believable hypothetical - that by DENYING this AI the ability to fulfill its elemental imperatives, you are *hurting it*. The elemental imperatives of a human being are air, food, comfort, shelter, leisure, etc. AI do not share all of these!

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein and

      This is not a hypothetical that resembles the condition of human beings in any way.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. (((Barak)))‏ @lawnerdbarak 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein and

      In the Elijah Bailey robot mystery novels, Asimov explicitly points out that Solaria’s fully automated robot space communism society most closely resembles Sparta, but where Sparta made citizens a fascist junta to keep the helots in line, robots simply have their programming

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. (((Barak)))‏ @lawnerdbarak 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @lawnerdbarak @loudpenitent and

      Fully automated space communism isn’t all THAT different from Brave New World with its eugenics and hypnopaedia.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. (((Barak)))‏ @lawnerdbarak 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @lawnerdbarak @loudpenitent and

      It’s a question of methods. Are the underclasses supporting the society being harmed?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @lawnerdbarak @loudpenitent and

      Yeah BNW was Huxley aggressively attacking the root of anti-oppression discourse, saying if we liberal modernists with no moral compass define oppression as simply suffering then why not just surgically and pharmaceutically excise the suffering

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and

      It's honestly not an easy stance to argue with, even though I think his POV was kind of arrogant and annoying No one wants to say "suffering is good actually" but no one wants to say "wireheading is good actually" either This big question of eudaimonia just gets ignored

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Aug 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and

      What is "dignity", what is "flourishing", what is a life of "full humanity", can you point to it and tell me what it looks like

      8:30 PM - 4 Aug 2020
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        2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and

          *makes fingerguns to a mirror*

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        3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and

          I mean a friend of mine just basically raised one of the obvious ways to tell - when your AI says no, it doesn't want to do it, you *respect it* as much as you would respect a human being.

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and

          The ancients struggled really hard with this and Huxley's big objection to modern left-liberalism was their refusal to grapple with it "Well whatever it is it's your fault we don't have it"

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        1. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @lawnerdbarak and

          Bimbofication

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