"Undertale has a strong moral stance that it's rooted in that AAA games can't match, it says you must not kill ANYBODY" How is that a stronger moral stance A naive view of absolute pacifism, in other contexts, IS what people condemn as "both-sides-ism"
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"Asgore is a murderer, but the important thing is he's sad and he's sorry" That's not a strong moral stance, that's bullshit I'd argue it's a misreading of Undertale but whether or not it's what Toby Fox meant, it's bad
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"Alphys experimented on ripping out people's souls and extracting energy from them, including the six children Asgore murdered She's basically Dr Mengele But also she's queer! She's awkies and shy! She watches anime erg Undyne!"
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This isn't genuine wrestling with mercy and forgiveness this is just you being able to dodge that question because your game is an uwu cartoon Which is fine! Go ahead and make games like that! That's fine! Just don't fucking lecture me
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Undertale IS MORALLY GRAY The question of "Should I kill Asgore in self defense or not, does it matter he's committed murder in the past or not" IS NOT A CLEARLY ANSWERABLE QUESTION It's NOT given a clear answer in-universe
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If Toby Fox wanted to actually make the incredibly stupid point people think he was trying to make - "Killing is never the answer, there is always another way" - he wouldn't have programmed the game the way he did
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The author of this piece says the Neutral ending is a bad ending and you're never supposed to get it, that ever killing anyone at all is a bad ending and a fail YOU CANNOT GET TO THE GOLDEN ENDING ON THE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH YOU *MUST* GET THE NEUTRAL ENDING AT LEAST ONCE FIRST
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I'm still waiting for Toriel to come back after she gave me a phone.
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Ha ha, yes The simple fact that this is a game, and a fairly low-budget game, means that "Continue to live with Toriel in the prologue area until you reach adulthood" is not a choice you can actually take
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I've not even reached that point. Literally waiting for her to return after she gave me a phone. It's maybe 5 screens in.
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Oh shit don't read the spoilers then
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