If you can't sit through this video of how a slaughterhouse works, then fucking stop eating meat If you think becoming "desensitized" by watching this video until the blood and guts no longer bother you is making you a worse person, then fucking stop eating meat
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
It's really not, at all, an unreasonable ask As clownish as PETA et al can be, the overwhelmingly vicious negativity omnivores aim at vegans is because a lot of people really do feel "not having to think about stuff" is a right (and know it's not a justifiable one)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
(I took the challenge to watch the slaughterhouse video and I still eat meat I don't think that's necessarily a good decision, I certainly don't think it means I "passed a test" -- it's a totally meaningless gesture in the end But also, like, literally the least you can do)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Maybe so, but being willing to surrender one’s moral superiority and acknowledge that one isn’t a Good Person who Deserves Good Things is IMO important. That’s again something Christians nominally believe, until they start talking about suffering people having made “bad choices”
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Replying to @muddlewait @loudpenitent and
The thing about Christianity is that the radical humility they profess to aspire to is extremely rare and the person who has it wouldn't necessarily be a moral paragon but would at least be admirable for achieving such a different perspective from the depressing human default
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Replying to @arthur_affect @muddlewait and
But of course they don't actually do it Of course they don't, the idea of such a person -- "Christlike" -- is exciting because it's almost impossible to be that It's so much easier and more rewarding to pretend you've become like that, but actually stay the same
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Replying to @arthur_affect @muddlewait and
Not that they're special -- Buddhists aren't all that enlightened as a class of people either, and atheist rationalbros aren't very rational But the Christian "born again" narrative makes the way they deal with constantly falling short of their ideal a real headtrip
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Yeah, the point is not to perfect or justify yourself, but to admit your failings, surrender superiority over others, throw yourself at cosmic mercy and still try your best, knowing you will always fail. But it turns out that even just admitting fault is too high a price for most
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Replying to @muddlewait @loudpenitent and
My cynical take on religions is that all religions offer you this pathway of some kind to becoming a better person, and cultural differences aside (and sexism and queerphobia and shit aside) I don't think any of the definitions of "better person" are all that bad
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Replying to @arthur_affect @muddlewait and
It's just that that's not the part people actually do Like in my darkest moments I don't even blame the religion People just... don't become better people
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Any system or mindset or program you give to people to try to make them better people, they will find a way to do it so they can say the did it without the part where they became better people "Flexibly inflexible", like they say, infinite paths to route around real change
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Replying to @arthur_affect @muddlewait and
I mean this is a very Christian POV itself In the Gospels people keep on asking Jesus how to be better people and he keeps telling them and they don't do it But it's a running theme you see lots of places, Zen Buddhism developed as a direct reaction to this
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Replying to @arthur_affect @muddlewait and
Maybe it's not even a bad thing, I dunno People keep saying talking about virtue is easy and doing it is hard and therefore cheap talk is an active evil because it saps the will to make real change But hey maybe most people really just can't change
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