i think Undertale might be unique in allowing you, the player, to force the playable character AND the narrator into doing war crimes against everyone the narrator loved? and yeah no fucking shit the narrator hates you after that happens
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect
still isn't the text of the game, or the author, or anything else whatsoever, claiming a moral stance against you, unless you think "Oh this makes me think about the consequences of /my actions/, it clearly has the same moral stance I came into this Wendy's with"
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that's it, actually, isn't it? people approach narrative with an oversimplification of the world which they want to have reified and solidified for them in the form of the story which they are about to consume, and if a story challenges that in a way they can't...
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Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect
...critically misread into submission, it becomes a problem with the Story? (amplified by that a lot of videos game try to do Moral Complexity and trip over their own dick down an entire flight of stairs and so people have decided it's not actually a thing games can do.)
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Cyrus @ vax adventures, or advaxtures Retweeted Baal Ska Tov
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And consider that in light of, likehttps://twitter.com/chrysopoetics/status/1281677353203068928?s=21 …
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Cyrus @ vax adventures, or advaxtures @chrysopoeticsReplying to @BootlegGirl @bazzalisk and 5 others[I can’t provide alt text, I’m sorry] Context: person being ripped into (purple) is both an AP TTRPG player and an actor; preceding reaction to his “failure” to perform relatable emotion in a game led to accusing him of being the (scripted) character he plays, among other things pic.twitter.com/Mbcss6aaMy1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
(specifically the fourth screenshot, the long one)
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hypothesis: people want to Do A Justified Violence, but they've memed themselves into deeply internalizing that violence is bad, even/especially in self defense against abuse, and they're trying to find something Pure to channel that urge into, because it still exists
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This is a deeply, deeply confused and obnoxious topic, because the SAME PEOPLE who think gaming needs to transcend good ol' ultra-violence are the ones who think gaming needs to re-embrace stories about good triumphing over evil But that's the same thing
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Like, shit, you want a classic good-vs-evil narrative? Doom Eternal It's right there, it was incredibly popular, made a lot of money, and it's everything you asked for
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There is literally no ambiguity about who the good guys and bad guys are -- the good guy is very firmly You (with no complications injected into player/character identification) The bad guys are literal demons from Hell
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