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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      I'm so frustrated with this discourse Like "moral grayness" is this specific identifiable quality that something can either have or not have and we've all decided having it is bad

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      "Undertale has a strong moral stance that it's rooted in that AAA games can't match, it says you must not kill ANYBODY" How is that a stronger moral stance A naive view of absolute pacifism, in other contexts, IS what people condemn as "both-sides-ism"

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      "Asgore is a murderer, but the important thing is he's sad and he's sorry" That's not a strong moral stance, that's bullshit I'd argue it's a misreading of Undertale but whether or not it's what Toby Fox meant, it's bad

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      "Alphys experimented on ripping out people's souls and extracting energy from them, including the six children Asgore murdered She's basically Dr Mengele But also she's queer! She's awkies and shy! She watches anime erg Undyne!"

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      This isn't genuine wrestling with mercy and forgiveness this is just you being able to dodge that question because your game is an uwu cartoon Which is fine! Go ahead and make games like that! That's fine! Just don't fucking lecture me

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      Undertale IS MORALLY GRAY The question of "Should I kill Asgore in self defense or not, does it matter he's committed murder in the past or not" IS NOT A CLEARLY ANSWERABLE QUESTION It's NOT given a clear answer in-universe

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      If Toby Fox wanted to actually make the incredibly stupid point people think he was trying to make - "Killing is never the answer, there is always another way" - he wouldn't have programmed the game the way he did

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      The author of this piece says the Neutral ending is a bad ending and you're never supposed to get it, that ever killing anyone at all is a bad ending and a fail YOU CANNOT GET TO THE GOLDEN ENDING ON THE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH YOU *MUST* GET THE NEUTRAL ENDING AT LEAST ONCE FIRST

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      You cannot escape the Underground without killing Asgore, because he is absolutely committed to killing you first He breaks the Mercy button in the boss fight, it's a whole thing The only way to spare his life is to cheat by reloading the game and starting over

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      It's at least a little bit part of the theme of the game that the Golden Ending is fake, it requires you to go to all this effort to engineer it because you have the godlike power to save and reload

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 3 Aug 2020

      The idea that this is seriously some kind of moral guide to life is something Toby Fox even seems like he wants to take the piss out of, it's referenced when you try to spare the bad guy in Deltarune (it may be the whole reason he's making Deltarune)

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        2. J. C. Cantwell‏ @segfaultvicta 3 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          i think Undertale might be unique in allowing you, the player, to force the playable character AND the narrator into doing war crimes against everyone the narrator loved? and yeah no fucking shit the narrator hates you after that happens

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        3. J. C. Cantwell‏ @segfaultvicta 3 Aug 2020
          Replying to @segfaultvicta @arthur_affect

          still isn't the text of the game, or the author, or anything else whatsoever, claiming a moral stance against you, unless you think "Oh this makes me think about the consequences of /my actions/, it clearly has the same moral stance I came into this Wendy's with"

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        2. Joseph 'Gerkuman' Adams B.Sc.(Hons)‏ @Gerkuman 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          Would you say that forgiving Asgore is a failure of the game (i.e. the implications were brushed aside), or simply just a sign that life is messy and that the game suggests restorative justice is better than capital punishment?

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @Gerkuman

          I would say it's a little of both, like it only works because the game plays up SO MUCH how much Asgore hates himself and is filled with grief and despair Which, of course, if it were a more realistic setting would get brushed aside as "more man-pain" (justifiably)

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        2. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 4 Aug 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          I mean I could make a *more valid argument for TLOU2 being black and white morality* since you don't get to choose

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        3. Dr. Ellie Lockhart. Republic serial villain.‏ @BootlegGirl 4 Aug 2020
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          It's the story of Abigail Anderson, a young girl who saw a selfish man rip away her father from her and doom the world, who seeks that man out to deliver the justice he deserves. When she does so, she leaves, harming no one else.

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