You say you're sick of stories that let someone get away with doing horrible things because of their angsty backstory That's literally what Undertale is The Golden Ending literally requires you to reload the game so you don't kill Asgore (it's impossible not to the first time)
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I'm so frustrated with this discourse Like "moral grayness" is this specific identifiable quality that something can either have or not have and we've all decided having it is bad
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"Undertale has a strong moral stance that it's rooted in that AAA games can't match, it says you must not kill ANYBODY" How is that a stronger moral stance A naive view of absolute pacifism, in other contexts, IS what people condemn as "both-sides-ism"
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"Asgore is a murderer, but the important thing is he's sad and he's sorry" That's not a strong moral stance, that's bullshit I'd argue it's a misreading of Undertale but whether or not it's what Toby Fox meant, it's bad
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"Alphys experimented on ripping out people's souls and extracting energy from them, including the six children Asgore murdered She's basically Dr Mengele But also she's queer! She's awkies and shy! She watches anime erg Undyne!"
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This isn't genuine wrestling with mercy and forgiveness this is just you being able to dodge that question because your game is an uwu cartoon Which is fine! Go ahead and make games like that! That's fine! Just don't fucking lecture me
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Undertale IS MORALLY GRAY The question of "Should I kill Asgore in self defense or not, does it matter he's committed murder in the past or not" IS NOT A CLEARLY ANSWERABLE QUESTION It's NOT given a clear answer in-universe
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If Toby Fox wanted to actually make the incredibly stupid point people think he was trying to make - "Killing is never the answer, there is always another way" - he wouldn't have programmed the game the way he did
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The author of this piece says the Neutral ending is a bad ending and you're never supposed to get it, that ever killing anyone at all is a bad ending and a fail YOU CANNOT GET TO THE GOLDEN ENDING ON THE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH YOU *MUST* GET THE NEUTRAL ENDING AT LEAST ONCE FIRST
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You cannot escape the Underground without killing Asgore, because he is absolutely committed to killing you first He breaks the Mercy button in the boss fight, it's a whole thing The only way to spare his life is to cheat by reloading the game and starting over
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It's at least a little bit part of the theme of the game that the Golden Ending is fake, it requires you to go to all this effort to engineer it because you have the godlike power to save and reload
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The idea that this is seriously some kind of moral guide to life is something Toby Fox even seems like he wants to take the piss out of, it's referenced when you try to spare the bad guy in Deltarune (it may be the whole reason he's making Deltarune)
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