It's like just barely acceptable because it's a *character* thinking this in a *novel* And Winston is supposed to be this headass insufferable flawed hero you only really kind of like But now there's all these Facebook uncles saying it in *real life* Chanting it, even
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You get that this is the exact same thing as the Ayn Rand quote about "A = A" right She said it a lot worse because she's a worse writer but the basic idea is the same There's a lot of overlap between their current fanbases
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How is that even possible? Oh wait, no one has ever actually read an Ayn Rand novel. I tried once. It hurt.
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I genuinely think that when a socialist like Orwell writes a book that is as wildly popular with Republicans as 1984 is, it means that, as skilled a writer and a thinker as he may be, he done fucked up It's his mistake and his lefty fans need to own that
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Yeah he couldn't control what people did with his work or how the political landscape evolved after his death but holy shit If I were him and I came back to life and saw who was stanning my book I'd immediately die again
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Reminds me that Fahrenheit 451 was written not about censorship but about how TV is bad.
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Maybe. I got the impression (possibly incorrectly?) that this could have been a case of "author changed his mind" or "author came up with the idea after the fact."
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The "TV is bad" message is not subtle AT ALL in the original book but I don't see it as this completely separate thing from the censorship part
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It would be weird if it wasn't about censorship, though. Most arguements that I see against TV (both in stories and in more formalized arguments) don't involve outlawing books.
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As I read the book, it's about how "mass culture" (TV, movies, pop music, etc) give people instant gratification and destroy their capacity for nuanced, critical thought
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Which then leads to a culture incapable of tolerating anything that makes them uncomfortable or they don't understand It's a more complex take than the usual "anti-censorship" take but not an unusual one
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It's the core thesis of Neil Postman's Amusing Ourselves to Death, like in that book Postman basically names F451 as his favorite dystopia IIRC
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Yeah, that's the take I got from it. In most of the "TV rots your brain" arguments that I encounter, no one needs to enforce it because it's so seductive. In F451, it was seductive, but there were also enforcers.
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