The argument has never been to crumple up arithmetic and throw it in the trash and replace it with a completely new number theory The argument is that the number theory "we all learned as kids" maps onto physical reality in various complicated, subjective ways
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But the whole 2 grams + 2 grams = 5 grams is absolutely false. Putting two objects on a scale is not addition or arithmetic. Addition would be weighing each one separately and then adding the weights + uncertainty of each measurement
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Yes It is a statement about how naive faith in addition without considering the process by which real quantities get turned into numbers in the real world (measurement) can fail
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If you just naively take a bunch of separate measurements and add them up on paper you get a "correct" answer (2+2=4) that is actually worse than the answer you get if you weigh them all together (5)
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I get what you’re saying but “weighing things together” is not addition. You could just glue those things together and they become one thing that is being measured as 5 grams. Addition would be, “I have 2 measured weights, here is the sum”
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It means whatever the person talking finds it useful to mean Carr went on to bring up stuff that people say as a joke -- "1+1=3", when it's two animals that mate and have an offspring, "1+1=1", when one of them kills and eats the other -- but it reflects a deeper truth
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor
Yeah, whenever someone says something that seems incorrect you should ask what they meant and how they're defining terms. Then when it turns out that they said what they said specifically to bend over backwards to assert something incorrect to be fake deep, you can dismiss it.
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Replying to @Gent_Sausage @phyphor
The people trolling for attention are the people who started this stupid fight by holding up the cliché from Orwell's 1984 to paint themselves as oppressed defenders of truth in the first place
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Like you understand Kareem was subtweeting James' days and days of rants with his "2+2=5" tweet, not vice versa
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Replying to @arthur_affect @phyphor
Nothing Kareem said struck me as particularly contentious so it doesn't really matter where James fits in. You're the one who's taken what Kareem said as a jumping off point to go further and insist that there is no objective reality outside of what we can measure
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I never said I knew it wasn't there because I can't see it (how could I? That's a contradiction), I said it's not relevant You can only live in the world you can see and touch
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