Heroes ended up completely defeated by this
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heroes had the especial problem of accidentally hiring ringer Zachary Quinto to play their main villain he was so clearly meant to die in the s1 finale, but they decided to keep him on because, you know, quinto that worked out real well.
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To be slightly fair, the original plan was to start the next season with a completely different cast, but the network nixed it. But yes, the increasingly desperate attempts to do something new with Sylar because they weren't willing to lose Quinto were hard to watch.
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This is kind of like what happened with Cristin Milioti on HIMYM You build all this hype around an unseen character and decide that to justify this hype you'd better cast someone who can knock it out of the park
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NussbaumAbigail and
And you SUCCEED, and then are cursed by this success Because the entire balance of the show was initially based on this character not being there, and now that they're drawing all this attention and taking over the show it's messing up that balance royally
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NussbaumAbigail and
Like how the Mother completely destroyed any hope of the audience still being invested in Ted/Robin shipping Sylar becoming essentially the main character made a joke of everyone else's arc, especially the actual intended main character Peter
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See, I'm the rare person who thinks the ending to HIMYM worked, precisely because we got to spend a season with Milioti's character and saw parts of her relationship with Ted. While the previous seasons had laid a foundation for Ted & Robin at a later point in their lives.
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Replying to @NussbaumAbigail @arthur_affect and
There are lots of other problems with the show - it obviously should have run for 5-6 seasons, not 8 - but the idea of introducing the mother and flashing forward to her and Ted's relationship doesn't feel like one them to me.
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But why would the Aunt Robin thing be a satisfying resolution to that Like yeah fine it ends tragically with her death but why should that segue to this years-dead ship at the end
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I guess it's a bigger problem on a Doylist level? Because on a Watsonian one, Ted and Robin reconnecting in middle age once they've both gotten the (conflicting) things they wanted out of life makes a lot of sense.
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It makes sense in a way that makes me feel very icky (Tracey gave him the kids he wanted and then God conveniently got her out of the way once they were old enough)
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True, but on the other hand everyone ignores the fact that Ted was Tracey's second love too. Her first fiance was killed and she spends the length of the show bringing herself to a point where she's ready to love again.
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Replying to @NussbaumAbigail @arthur_affect and
I still think it should have ended with the reveal that Ted was talking to random people he kidnapped and held in his basement, having lost his mind and become a hermit after Robin left him.
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