And the point of the actual mathematician replying to this making fun of it is that this is a pointless, ridiculous thing to get heated about People in the business of defending sacred eternal verities need to get a better hobby (like making fun of those people)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Gent_Sausage and
Who gives a shit about "universally true statements" The purpose of saying words is to accomplish some kind of goal, which entirely depends on what you're doing at the moment Mathematicians know this better than anybody
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Your entire argument boils down to "observations are merely an approximation of reality" which is not novel, and in fact painfully obvious. It also has no bearing on the underlying reality which functions independently of your imperfect observations. And now for Chu's next trick:
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Replying to @Gent_Sausage @arthur_affect and
Except he never said or implied it was either novel or non-obvious, so what are you on about?
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Replying to @SusieusMaximus @Gent_Sausage and
The whole point is that it is obvious, but people are still somehow offended by the idea.
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Replying to @SusieusMaximus @arthur_affect and
The Gentleman Sausage Retweeted 🔥 Kareem Carr 🔥
Because everyone is going out of their way to forget that Kareem himself said what I've been saying, which is what you're all trying to refute because you all misread him it seemshttps://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1289724480244285445 …
The Gentleman Sausage added,
🔥 Kareem Carr 🔥 @kareem_carrPeople like this sound stupid but they are making a tremendously deep point. Our numbers, our quantitative measures, are abstractions of real underlying things in the universe and it's important to keep track of this when we use numbers to model the real world. 4/Show this thread2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @Gent_Sausage @SusieusMaximus and
No, he's saying I'm the one who "sounds stupid but am making a tremendously deep point" Not you
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SusieusMaximus and
I agree that you're the stupid person mentioned in the first sentence, but if you could read more than one sentence without needing to catch your breath you'd realize that I'm referring to thispic.twitter.com/oRtaKC495T
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Replying to @Gent_Sausage @SusieusMaximus and
Yes, they are abstractions of real things They are not those things That's the whole point he's making
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Gent_Sausage and
There is no "stupid person" in the sentence He is saying the person is not actually stupid
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Any statement, whether phrased in English words or in mathematical notation, is a statement a human being uttered for some reason, to try to *do* something The "truth" or "falsehood" of the statement depends on whether it succeeds in what it's trying to do
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Gent_Sausage and
(Pragmatic view of truth as opposed to correspondence view) The symbols 2, +, 5, = are all just tools to try to accomplish something The idea of being able to universally pronounce truth or falsehood from on high without context is an extremely shallow view of communication
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SusieusMaximus and
Wow, no shit. They really are just symbols. I never noticed. Tell me more.
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