In the photo, 2. Elsewhere, I am unsure. I think this ^ is just everyone arguing semantics at this point.
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Yeah it's just a circlejerk of Arthur and 40 or so pseudointellectual sycophants like yourself saying obvious things about the technicalities of real world observations as though that has any relevance the the abstract 2, 2 of which always equals 4
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It's "the abstract 2" that isn't relevant I mean the point is that we're talking about actual math curricula and the fact that vast numbers of students just don't give a shit about the subject because people like you think yelling "2+2=4!" is somehow revelatory
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Considering that this discussion began as a reference to Orwell's nightmare, which doesn't hold a candle to the modern horrors of birdsite, it is the idea of 2 that is what's relevant and not your low-hanging gotchas about the inadequacies of observation
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A mathematician telling people to think harder about the truisms they spout is almost the exact diametric inverse of Hitler demanding you repeat a slogan I mean you're literally the one repeating a slogan "TWO PLUS TWO IS FOUR TWO PLUS TWO IS FOUR"
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Yeah. We get it. Not-2 and Not-2 equals Not-4. That doesn't change the fact that 2+2 = 4
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Yeah but, like So what
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Gent_Sausage and
Who gives a shit What is the actual purpose of waving around arithmetically true statements, what knowledge do you gain If I actually wanted to know what 2+2 was I could ask Siri
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Gent_Sausage and
I mean the obnoxious thing about this is you aren't really talking about arithmetic, you're playing culture war games using a hoary cliche (not even an original one, not even one original to Orwell) and when someone challenges your metaphor on the object level you get all red
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Seriously, it's funny I mean it's fun for me to talk about math using you chuds as a springboard regardless but it also is entertaining and revelatory looking at your weird little religion where you think you're resisting Big Brother and shit
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